not a charming day with snakes


so, all afternoon and into early into this evening, i listened to the digital side of my rig with a power snakes hydra inserted at different positions. my older son, a second-generation audiophile, was present during the greater portion of this session. during our time together, i began by plugging my pre/dac and transport into the hydra. we played numerous disks, mostly in the “groove rock,” “acid jazz,” “adult rock,” and “folk/pop” genre, including some direct-to-cd recordings done in the past few days ( this son is a consultant to radio stations and record labels, which gives me some awesome access to the current music scene). some examples of discs on our play list: radiohead, “kid a”; air, “moon safari”; phish, various; pink floyd, “echoes”; oysterhead, “the grand pecking order”; mark knopfler, “sailing to philadelphia”; the bobs, “cover the songs of.....”; dylan (also my 1st son’s name), “slow train comin’ ”; dave carter & tracy gammer, “drum, hat, buddha”, etc. (yeah, I know “etc.” doesn’t quite make it with this lineup but, hey....). after listening for an hour and a half or so to numerous cuts on the “play list,” our initial reaction was: wow, the soundstage has really widened but something’s not quite right. then it hit us both, almost simultaneously: the PRaT’s all screwed up. everything sounds constipated, slowed, without rhythm or pace. we then took the hydra from the frontend/source and moved it so i could plug my amp into it. at first, things improved. the supreme quickness of the system returned, while the huge soundstagen remained. as the hydra “warmed up,” however, the constrictions to the bowels increased. constipation again. the flip-side of PraT. unplugging the hydra brought everything back as it had been. the quickness was heard again in the cymbals, drums, lead guitars and mandolins. the bass tightened. voices were back where they should be, separated, focused and steady. thus my query: has anyone else had this experience with the hydra? i’ve heard so many good things about it that I was completely unprepared for the negative things it did in my system.

associated equipment (digital side only): boulder 1012 pre/dac; accuphase dp- 90 cd transport; jeff rowland 8ti amp; avalon eidolon speakers; tara, the one ic’s (pre to amp) and speaker cables; accuphase st att&t optical and accrotech 99.9999 coax digital connections; tara, the one and power snakes python pc’s; 5 dedicated 20 amp circuits w/ hospital-grade outlets.

-cfb
cornfedboy
one disc i neglected to mention on the play list, which i highly recommend, is zero 7, "simple things." this is a uk group somewhat reminiscent of portishead but much, much better, IMO. great sonics, in any event. -cfb
The Hydra doesn't travel well and the fully cooked unit (it was the Soundstage! review sample) sounded just about the way you described it and took about five days to settle down from it's journey to me.....It was really dark sounding the first couple of days and lightened up a bit after that......I liked it better than the PS Audio I purchased and better than the Vans Evers units, but liked a custom unit I build a bit better (it is essentially out of production)......Bottom line is plug it back in for a few days to see if it doesn't come back....Keep the cord off the floor and put the unit on some small cones on something hard and you might end up liking it....I used it with some home made electronics I cobbled together or modified along with Rockport turntable table and speakers......

Bob Crump
TG Audio/CTC Builders/DDR Mfg
bob: why is your custom unit "essentially out of production"? if you have even one left, i'd sure like to hear (or not hear) it. -cfb
Cornfed, I had similar results in my system. I did not try them with my digital, but did audition over a three week period using the Walker turntable.

With Powersnakes on my Callisto preamp, Io phono and on the Wolcott amps, I spun lots of LP's. The effect on the Dave Mathews / Santana cut, is still stuck in my head, even today.

One thing I noticed, I am not sure you are describing the same thing, the midrange had a completely "separate" quality about it. At first the Powersnakes seemed to uncover additional separation and detail.

After long term listening, I realized the midrange was a part of the musical spectrum that was not being compressed in the same way (or as much?) as the remainder of the music. This became intolerable in the long term, but it is interesting to remember the effect it had on me.

I did not post results at that time, due to the vast number of Audiogon members RAVING about Powersnakes. It is interesting that with totally different equipment and source, you had equally disappointing results.
Kelly-You should get a hold of John(uses the moniker jtinn, here) he is super helpful with this sort of stuff(he sells shunayta among other gear), I am sure he can give you some sort of answer, you may already know him. Any reason in particular you decided to try a hydra? bored with your rig, or just searching for the holy grail?

What are you using the coax digital cable on? trying a different combination of cables seeing if it works better/worse/indifferent from the at&t/st cable? I ask this simply because I was thinking of doing a Hydra prior to upgrading interconnects. I live in a cave which can not be re-wired for any sort of reasonable fee(unless I take down a concrete wall), so I am stuck with a very inadequate electrical set-up.
Thanx for any help,
Tim