New to Analog and just played my first record in

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Ejlif, you wrote, and I understand it's just your opinion, but it's stated as a rather large declarative, a generalization and perhaps even value judgement that (imho) has lost its edge, or point, or even relevance (especially if you begin to consider all of the implications)...

You wrote...

>>It's a well known fact that good vinyl beats digital every time<<

imho, that "fact" is changing, the "fact" of the matter is rapidly changing...

Just as Rushton made a reasonable and practical suggestion to Grannyring at the outset of this thread, I would like to make a similar suggestion:

I suggest that you go listen to music you are very familiar with on vinyl but on the system of someone who has taken reasonable care in his/her setup of a

MacMini,

a USB asynch DAC, such as Ultra Fi's iRoc, connected to the MacMini with a quality USB cable, such as a Ridge Street Audio Poeima!!! or a Synergistic Research Tesla,

which is connected to quality single ended ICs to the preamp...

someone who has carefully ripped their CDs into lossless format...

someone who has correctly and carefully allowed proper breakin on all of the above...

and I suggest that you might very easily have serious second thoughts about your opinion...

>>It's a well known fact that good vinyl beats digital every time<<

Why not try it and report back...?

Nothing ventured... nothing gained...

otherwise, it's just the same-old same-old and don't bother me with the possibility of having, really having, more of what I really like...

Happy listenting...

Ed

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Bill,
I think we've had a couple sales transactions(that is if you live in MN.)if I am thinking right, you are more than welcome to stop over and give a listen to my system. Mine is middle of the road, but it should give you a feel for whether or not vinyl is something that you want to pursue.
Send me an e-mail, if you have an interest, I live in So. Mpls just north of the Mall of America.
Jeff

Ed,

Well I have almost that same system you are describing (less the Synergistic USB cord which I want to try) sitting on the rack right next to my turntable. YOu know what, it sounds awesome. I love it, I play it more than my turntable. I love itunes and the convenience it affords. If I could only have one or the other it would be my itunes no doubt about it.

But, my vinyl rig sound A LOT better, no doubt about it. I have a fairly expensive vinyl rig, but I used to have a rig I bought for 1000.00 used on Audiogon, table cart and arm. That sounded better than any digital I had owned prior including Wadia, Ayre, and Audio Aero players costing upwards of 10K.

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Ejlif... nice! And I agree with Tvad as well.

I am facing a pound for pound test of my iRoc against my Cary 303/300 here real soon. And I'll be testing the Synergistic USB against the Ridge Street Audio Poeima!!! as well.

The truth is *in there*.

And I agree that if money and time & the near fetish-like quality of vinyl care and playback are of no consequence in the equation, I prefer the qualities of vinyl.

But having said that, my money and my time (especially the ritualistic aspects of vinyl care and playback... which I'd be the first to agree are nearly a life-style... not something to find fault with or to criticize) do matter.

And part of my preference (I must admit) is sheer fun. I like the ability to explore new music and do so in a reasonably quick, HQ (and inexpensive) manner (e.g. Rhapsody) that the MacMini and the iRoc offer. I am very curious, very interested in many different genres of music, and this allows me to get *there* in a HQ manner.

Nice to meet a fellow iRoc'r... keep in touch!

Ed

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