Speaker cables from Asia

Not sure if you're talking about me.... Anyway, me too have bought stuff online from other Asian countries like Japan, Singapore, Malaysia and Thailand without any issue. But Hong Kong... I'll just steer clear of it.

Tpreaves mentioned about suspicious Kimber 12TC... If you check eBay # 320416615598, you'll notice the printing on the sleeves are different from the original. The same applies to ebay # 220466314087 and # 220466314057 where the banana plugs (which they like to copy as well) look different too, and the printing on the sleeves looks dirt cheap. They've even included a picture with an original packing box.

Check out the link below too view what Ray Kimber has to say:

http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.mpl?forum=general&n=521027&highlight=Belgarchi

Do a search on Oyaide, Audioquest and Kamber (yes, I think they purposely spell it wrongly) products and it's not difficult to observe that almost all the suspicious items come from Hong Kong.

Ttorigin, its not about you. Its about people in general who like to type cast certain race or pple from other regions which they are not familiar. Sure they are many fraudsters from the asia region. Likewise from europe, usa or any part of the whole.
I have bought stuff from UK and the con man was really smart to sent me tracking nos and actually sent me a package but a porno CD instead of beatles box set. Luckily I was able to make a credit card chargeback and got back all my money
In another incident, I bought a watch from Germany and when I realised the poor quality of the watch box , I demanded a refund and after much hassle I managed to get full refund
My experience tells me that I shouldnt buy anything if its too cheap and the shipping charge is unbelievably low and the seller seems to agree with all your request and this is regardless of their race and where they come from. Cheats are cheats, does matter where they are from

The moral of the story , buy from somebody who has healthy feedback, sell things cheap but not ridiculously cheap. Best of all buy from dealers and certain individual who is actively posting in audiogon. Avoid audioxsell. i had a bad experience recently and when I inform the moderator of the website about the fraud and I did it twice, the moderator didnt even bother to respons

I would like to know what manufacturers (lets say Kimber, Audioquest, etc) are doing about these fraudulent products. Surely they are in the best position to stop these products (I bought fraudulent Audioquest cable - the moderator did nothing after reporting the matter?)
Regards

Thank you again for all the responses. A close fried and I where going back & forth on the subject today. We both also wondered whether cables like Audioquest and Van den Hul where manufactured in China to begin with. As Millicurie 999 stated. But even so I guess they would be considered grey market goods. Then again I go back to part of my original question has anyone tried any of these speaker cables or IC's

I once did consider getting a pair of Van den Hul Magnum hybrid speaker cable from Ebay since the price was quite cheap. After pondering for some time I ditched the idea as I didn't want to end up disappointed. Most audio stores in Ebay selling cheap stuff are from Hong Kong. As for your question how will these cables sound like compared to the original, I reckon one would take them as authentic cables unless they are compared to the original. Then again, I presume it would be difficult to differentiate original and fakes apart in double-blind test unless you cut the cables open and inspect all the details.