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Pure silver wire: solid, stranded or Litz wire?

I have quite a long experience in using pure solid silver wires in my DIY cables. Overall I am very happy with the results but I always enjoy trying out different things. After having tried a few types of solid silver I ended up with OCC. Not so much because of the claims about 6N-7N purity and mono crystal nature but because it simply sounds at least as good (but probably much better) than the standard 99.99% silver, it is much easier to work with and it is immune to corrosion. These are my observations and not claims by the various suppliers.
However, I am interested in trying out a stranded or Litz version of this silver (or any other type of silver that may be available at reasonable prices? Anyone with experience on it? Positives & negatives?

Regarding the stranded pure silver I do not see many benefits other than flexibility. I am also not impressed by the idea that many bare silver wires are in constant contact with each other. On the other hand Litz silver wires (individually insulated cores braided/twisted together forming a sigle conductors with an outer insulation)seem to be the ideal situation. However, they do not seem to be widely available?
I have come accross Litz type silver only in the case of internal tonearm wires (i.e. Audionote)but at very small sizes and very high prices.
Other than this some online research only came up with very limited sources about larger sizes (HGC and audionote). I have collected a few relevant direct links from different suppliers if anyone is interested but I am not sure if I am allowed to post them in the forums.

Anyway, in terms of Litz style wire, it appears that there is the usual Litz of very fine coated/enamelled cores or a simpler form with larger cores (but less in number)threaded in tiny teflon tubes of the same size before they are tightly twisted together. The second seemed quite an attractive option. It is much cheaper than the first Litz option, more flexible than solid wires, and the little Teflon tubes offer better insulation than a few coatings can do. It also offer improvements in terms of skin effect, ringing, while adds to the overall surcace area of the conductor without the need to use larger sizes.

Any ideas about known suppliers of such wires? Anyone has personal experience?
aber23
aber23 OP
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Hi Rik, Thank you for the crarification. The description of D501 Silver by VDH does not specify that the conductors are litz but since you are the owner of one of them and you say so, this should be the case.
What is your opinion on the cable? I have heard / read mixed reviews on it and to be very honest I am not a great fan of Van Den Hul (Although I have only tried a couple of cables).
I think that the D-501 silver hybrid sells for around £90 per metre which is not too bad (depending on how it actually performs).
aber23 OP
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Regarding the suggestion about Mundorf's solid silver/gold wires, never tried them but I heard that they are very nice for DIY interconnects (at 0.5mm). The seller who sent me the samle actually sells some interconnects with Mundorf silver but when I enquired about it he suggested that I would get better results for a lower price if I use a hybrid of solid, high purity OCC silver and OCC copper conductors than Mundorf's silver-gold alloy.
Still, I would not reject the idea of silver-gold. It appears to add some mildness and roundness to the sound of silver as well as better mechanical qualities to the conductor.

Has anyone made a comparisson of Mundorf's silver with OCC silver? It would be interesting to hear what you think.
audioquest4life
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I like your DIY approach. What do you think about this company as a source for your DIY projects?

http://www.tempoelectric.com/cables.htm#aurum

I am thinking about getting some silver IC's with WBT AG's, for long interconnects. I am also exploring the DIY route for IC's between the phono and preamp.

Thanks for keeping us informed about your progress.

Ciao,
Audioquest4life
aber23 OP
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Regarding the enquiry about Tempo-electric. I do respect the fact that they have offered so much information on DIY. Their non-commercial partner (I think) website

http://www.laventure.net/tourist/index.html is also a great source of information.

Their prices on DIY materials (i.e. silver, teflon etc) are good but still quite expensive if you intend to use such materials on a regular basis. Ideally you should try to buy them from manufacturers or specialized distributors / resellers that you trust.

The problem in purchasing directly from the sourse (or close to it) is that most materials are not specifically created for the purpose you need them. So you may have to try samples from different sources untill you find the most suitable. By purchasing these materials from somewhere like Tempo Electric you can be a lot more confident on their quality and suitability.

Personally, I prefer purchasing from the source but this has resulted to spending a lot of time and often being dissapointed.
okkie300
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Hi Aber23 Well it is a lot better than the original d501 and as the std.SME cable.But it is silver so it depends on your equipment.But it is not too clear.I had always VDH cables The Revelation speakercable and Thunderline interlinks.that is a good combination however i am now playing with Cardas,[see my question can you help?]Rik
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