Johnmadden - To quote from the above - "Don't worry about the cables until later"
Well,,,err... I am one of those guys from "the dark side" and here's why...
(and apologies about the length of this)
I have a pretty nice amp - a NAIM 5i and a nice pair of speakers - Gershman Acoustics Sonograms.
I think my wires are pretty good...
- Van Den Hul D102 III Hybrid Interconnects
- Furutech 10awg power cable on the NAIM
- DH Labs Power Plus 12 awg on the power conditioner that powers the source components
- Van Den Hul D352 Hybrid speaker cables
However - my source components are not what I'd call "high-end"...
- a Cambridge Audio 640p phono stage,
- a Dacmagic DA convertor,
- an apple TV (for streaming music from my computer via the Dacmagic)
Their performance out of the box was pretty good (or so I thought)
Then I started playing with the replacement of their Wal-Wart power supply with its crappy little "phone charger" cable.
I tried a basic 12v lighting transformer with some old 14 awg speaker wire as the power connector cables and it improved the sound tremendously!
But I then decided to go for the gusto and used a good quality toroid transformer and upgraded the power cables to a higher quality copper - the results are astounding!
So now my Phono and DAC are performing so far beyond their original abilities and are on par with some very pricey gear.
I also know that I would not have heard such an improvement if it wasn't for the interconnects, the speaker cables and the power cables on the other components in the system!
Going back to the power cables and power supply that originally came with the various components demonstrates the improvement quite nicely, even to "normal friends" i.e. not into hi-fi.
All of the cables in a system work in harmony to provide the very best sound possible and one weak link will degrade that sound
FWIW: I have just finished testing the DH Labs Power Plus mains cable (DIY) and acoustically, I found it to perform just as well as the Furutech 10 gauge power cable. It's now on my power conditioner!
Their copper is of the highest quality, their construction is high-end and their pricing is very reasonable especially when compared to the competition.
I have also just ordered some of their BL-1 interconnect wire, just to see how good it is when compared to my D102 III's
I had the Audio Quest Gsnake, but IMHO for the same money I believe you can do much much better - especially if you are into DIY!
Also, the suggestion of another appender to look for "previously enjoyed" cables on AG is a great idea - you can save $$$BIG.
So to cut to the chase :-) - If I can get this sort of improvement with my modest Cambridge Audio gear, imagine how good you pre/amp will perform with the right cables!
I believe the performance of equipment in any "Snack Bracket" can be maximized way beyond the owners expectation, if they invest in good quality cables - i.e. interconnects, speaker and power cables.
I hear a lot of guys talk about their upgrade paths from this piece of gear to the next - it seems never ending. But recently I heard one older gentlemen exclaim that after all of his many upgrades over the years, he realized that all he really needed was "good cables"!
This is just one guy's - differing opinion :-)
Ultimately, you will decide which path is best for you and your approach/budget.
Whatever path you take - enjoy the ride.
Well,,,err... I am one of those guys from "the dark side" and here's why...
(and apologies about the length of this)
I have a pretty nice amp - a NAIM 5i and a nice pair of speakers - Gershman Acoustics Sonograms.
I think my wires are pretty good...
- Van Den Hul D102 III Hybrid Interconnects
- Furutech 10awg power cable on the NAIM
- DH Labs Power Plus 12 awg on the power conditioner that powers the source components
- Van Den Hul D352 Hybrid speaker cables
However - my source components are not what I'd call "high-end"...
- a Cambridge Audio 640p phono stage,
- a Dacmagic DA convertor,
- an apple TV (for streaming music from my computer via the Dacmagic)
Their performance out of the box was pretty good (or so I thought)
Then I started playing with the replacement of their Wal-Wart power supply with its crappy little "phone charger" cable.
I tried a basic 12v lighting transformer with some old 14 awg speaker wire as the power connector cables and it improved the sound tremendously!
But I then decided to go for the gusto and used a good quality toroid transformer and upgraded the power cables to a higher quality copper - the results are astounding!
So now my Phono and DAC are performing so far beyond their original abilities and are on par with some very pricey gear.
I also know that I would not have heard such an improvement if it wasn't for the interconnects, the speaker cables and the power cables on the other components in the system!
Going back to the power cables and power supply that originally came with the various components demonstrates the improvement quite nicely, even to "normal friends" i.e. not into hi-fi.
All of the cables in a system work in harmony to provide the very best sound possible and one weak link will degrade that sound
FWIW: I have just finished testing the DH Labs Power Plus mains cable (DIY) and acoustically, I found it to perform just as well as the Furutech 10 gauge power cable. It's now on my power conditioner!
Their copper is of the highest quality, their construction is high-end and their pricing is very reasonable especially when compared to the competition.
I have also just ordered some of their BL-1 interconnect wire, just to see how good it is when compared to my D102 III's
I had the Audio Quest Gsnake, but IMHO for the same money I believe you can do much much better - especially if you are into DIY!
Also, the suggestion of another appender to look for "previously enjoyed" cables on AG is a great idea - you can save $$$BIG.
So to cut to the chase :-) - If I can get this sort of improvement with my modest Cambridge Audio gear, imagine how good you pre/amp will perform with the right cables!
I believe the performance of equipment in any "Snack Bracket" can be maximized way beyond the owners expectation, if they invest in good quality cables - i.e. interconnects, speaker and power cables.
I hear a lot of guys talk about their upgrade paths from this piece of gear to the next - it seems never ending. But recently I heard one older gentlemen exclaim that after all of his many upgrades over the years, he realized that all he really needed was "good cables"!
This is just one guy's - differing opinion :-)
Ultimately, you will decide which path is best for you and your approach/budget.
Whatever path you take - enjoy the ride.