......thanks Stan. I have been doing a little research on the Elrod Statement Gold, The Purist 25th Anniversary is also a consideration as the whole system is Purist 20th Anniversary but the 25th is beyond my bugdet like the Nordost Odlin. Looking at the Siltech's as well.....I have to say $4,000 to $5 would do it. My purpose was not to get everyone rattled with my request ...if you have any idea's let me know.