P. Scan DVD Players and HDTV-ready TV's


I have a Loewe HDTV-ready TV with a 16:9 aspect ratio that has built-in progressive scan. I would like to upgrade my DVD player and I've liked what I've read about Pioneer's DV37. What worries me about this player is how compatible/beneficial is a progressive scan DVD player with a HDTV-ready progressive scan TV? Is there signal degradation due to a redundancy in the progressive scan process? Is there signal degradation due to converting from digital to analog in the DVD player, then converting from anolog to digital at the TV's progressive scan processor, then converting back from digital to analog to display the picture? TV's with built-in progressive scan, 3/2 pulldown,line doubling technology offer much improved picture quality of NTSC broadcasts, I'm just wondering if these get in the way of progressive scan DVD players? Any comments or thoughts on this would be appreciated.
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Dovetail- I also have a Loewe 16:9 Planus and have been contemplating the same issue. I have been told that the doubler in the Planus is better than just about any in-set doubler, but have never been able to do a comparison. I have also been told that the progressive scan input on another of the Loewe sets is not via the component video or s-video, but rather thru the vga type input. I am curious also as to your experience so far with the set, it seems that with some cable and satellite signals, picture quality is degraded by the doubler, while other times its just awesome. Color is always fantastic, but picture seems grainy and/or out of focus some times. If you have any thoughts on this, I'd appreciate a response here. I have been using better cables.com s-video and component video cables so far.
Hello Dovetail, I also own a Loewe dtv (Arcada) and also question the benefits of a progressive scan DVD player with this TV. I can tell you one thing though, the internal line doubler and comb filter in the Loewe series are VERY hard to improve upon. The processing circuitry as I understand it from the owners manual, reviews, etc, are in the digital domain not the analog domain. I think (but wouldnt swear to) that this is the main reason that it is so hard to improve upon it. Right now I have the new DVDO V2 line doubler connected to the RGA input on my set. This unit outputs 480progressive but I still prefer the picture from my Pioneer DVD player (non progressive) when run through the component inputs of this TV. If you havent already, calibrate your set with the AVIA or Video Essentials set-up discs, its WELL worth the $25-$40 for either of these discs. Good luck and if you do try it and get a worthwile improvement, drop another post and let us know as this also applies to sets other than Loewe! Later......
Swampwalker, it IS true that the progressive scan input can only be accessed through the RGB input of these sets. I tried to access through the component inputs with a RGB-to-component adapter on the hopes that I would get better color fidelity and maintain the option of multiple aspect ratios for all sources but got a split picture with screwed up coloring! Did some homework and found out the hard way that it wouldnt work! Anyway, fellow Loewe owners, learn from my mistake and dont try this at home! Later...
Swampwalker, I have e-mailed Loewe TV, in both Germany and their USA distributor Sensory Science Corp. in Arizona, regarding a handful of issues which I will post back on after their responses. I'm guessing at least some picture quality problems are caused by incompatibility of broadcast signals and the DTV's internal P.scan. I wish there was a way to bypass the DTV's P.scan feature to varify this. Check out the article by Alen Koebel at theperfectvision.com entiled "What You Should Know About Progressive-Scan DVD". Has anybody tried using a format converter(transcoder) to bypass a DTV's internal P.Scan? (Signal Path: P.Scan DVD Player's component outputs to the trancoder, from the transcoder's RGB output to the DTV's RGB input).
Bigwood, Just curious, what made you decide to use a external line doubler with your Loewe Arcada DTV?