Any mid-priced Receivers Worthwhile???


I auditioned an Onkyo Integra DTR-5.1 receiver today, driving small Paradigm satellites with an M&K subwoofer. The system sounded quite good spacially and in terms of its frequency range, but it had a little too much lower-treble presence for my liking. I'd like to take the plunge into surround sound, but so far, all the low and mid-priced receivers I've heard have exhibited this flaw to varying degrees. Right now I have good 2-channel sound using the venerable NAD 3020 integrated amp. I don't want to regret going to 5-channel surround. Perhaps the treble zing was in the speakers and not the Integra, I can't say for sure. So, my question is: are there any mid-priced receivers that won't bore holes through my skull during the length of a 2-hour flick, or can I only achieve natural sounding HT with high-priced gear?? Thanks in advance for any and all insight!
plato
I would definitely keep ahold of the two channel stuff for the stereo listening and then get a midrange receiver for the HT. I recently did just that. For a while I anguished over getting good HT separates (had narrowed it down to either the Lexicon, the Proceed, or maybe the Bryston along with a Classe CAV-75 bridged to three channels at 150 to drive the rears and center) when I eventually came to the conclusion (and my senses?) and decided that I really only needed that quality of gear for two channel listening. So, I did some listening and a lot of reading and had things narrowed down the Yamaha, Denon, Onkyo, and Marantz in the around $800 range. In the end, I got the Marantz (SRS-7000, or something like that). I run the main channels from the preout on the Marantz to the processor loop an my preamp, so the main speakers are always being driven by my main amp. However, the center and surrounds are being driven directly by the Marantz (which puts out 100wpc, if I am not mistaken). The Marantz has a single master volume control for all channels, but allows for individual volume adjustment for each channel up to +/- 10db from the baseline of the master volume control (which I found to be more than enough to equalize all channels, despite the fact that the fronts are seeking 400wpc into an average 4ohm load and the rears are seeing 100wpc into an efficient 8ohms). I have found that this setup works great for me. Even among the brands I considered, each one certainly offers far more expensive models than the one I ended up with. However, I found the $800 range to be the reasonable cutoff point above which it started making more sense to begin considering separates again because, much more than that and I might as well just give it up and get the good stuff. I’ve found the Marantz to be pretty darn ok. Don’t get me wrong, when I am listening to music I it turn it off. But when it’s time for a DVD it sounds great and now I’ve got all of the whistles and bells of proper HT without breaking the bank. What more, if I decide that I want better amplification for any of the other channels, I can always thrown on a new amp, as the Marantz has preouts for all channels. Long post, I know, but, in sum, I’d suggest looking into receivers at around $800. You can spend a lot more with no problem (and you could spend less, too) but, considering the beast that I had chosen, I found this to be the window in which everything I wanted done was getting done right just below the point of diminishing returns.
I am also quite satisfied with my Marantz SR7000, which you should be able to find for around $675 - $700. SR8000 was very similar with better remote (RC2000) for about $200 more. I got a Pronto, so I didn't need the RC2000 (which is an excellent piece). If your budget allows, their new SR-19EX is quite nice. I think the SR7000 and SR-19 give the most bang for the buck in their line.

Also considered Denon and Yamaha in the same price range. Got some very positive references on Outlaw after I had already bought the Marantz. If you like NAD, you should definitely try their new receivers.

You can get excellent HT performance with the simplicity of a receiver in the $1,000 price range.

Good luck!
Mezmo and Bbroussard,

Thank you for the excellent suggestions. It seems like a lot of people are saying good things about the Marantz HT receivers, so I am going to check them outand probably go that route. Thanks for your help! Happy Easter!
Plato, since you're a fan of NAD, check out the NAD T760, can be had for around $500 here on Audiogon. Works well with my Gallo's for HT. Jeff
Plato:

First off, you have an NAD 3020 Integrated Amplifier?? Oh man, I am jealous of you. I always loved that little thing. What I always liked about it that this "low priced" gem has sounded more powerful than it really was, and it always sounded great on top of that. At the risk of going off subject here, what components did you surround your NAD 3020 with??

Now, on to home theater receivers. When you say "mid priced", what price did you have in mind in particular ($1,000.00 to $2,000.00..... lower?? a little higher?? etc.....)? Because I got some candidates to list in just about any price range.

If you are shopping at a price point below $1,000.00, then I have several in mind that I think you should look at. Personally, I am shopping in this price range and have my eyes on a Harman/Kardon AVR-210. But, that's just me. There are others you should look at besides Harman/Kardon. Onkyo has two models you should look at, the TX-DS575X (70 Watts Per Channel x 5) for $530.00. The next model up, the TX-DS676 (85 Watts Per Channel x 5) retails for $830.00, and then there is the TX-DS777 (105 Watts Per Channel x 5, and with DTS and THX) for $1,050.00, but if you shop around, you probably get it for below that. Then, there are models from Marantz, the SR-5000 ($650.00) and the SR-7000 ($900.00). NAD also has a model you should look at (and being that you have a 3020 Integrated Amplifier, you should be VERY familiar with this brand), the T-751 for about $750.00. That's about it for models that retail for under $1,000.00.

Now, if you are shopping in the $1,000.00 to $2,000.00 range, then maybe you should look at Arcam AVR100 ($1,200.00), the Denon AVR-3801 ($1,100.00), the Sony STR-V555ES ($1,300.00) and two models from Yamaha, the RX-V1000 ($1,000.00) and the RX-V2000 ($2,000.00).

Good luck, and let us know of your decision. Thanks.

--Charles--