Acoustic Zen vs. Coincident CST


Does anybody out there have any comments about the performance characteristics of these two companys cables, either IC or Spkr going head to head. I know components plays a big part but lets talk generalities. Appreciate all the feed back and interaction with you all.
curlysimpson
I cannot be definitive about this, but I believe the Coincident speaker cable is not a low-capacitance cable, not real high either like the Goertz, but at least moderate capacitance. This will cause it to sound too laid back and fuzzy with a few amps. But in the right company it has a rightness to its sound, that makes everything seem like it comes from the one musical event rather than a disconnected patchwork of nice sounds. It is a strength that some people fail to notice because they get too analytical about resolution issues.
I would like to address some technical points applicable to speaker cables in general and how they apply to the Coincident CST1 and TRS speaker cables in particular.
It is commonly mentioned that capacitance is an important fator in speaker cable performance.This is incorrect.A speaker cable's capacitance is in parallel across the power amp output,not in series with the signal.The musical signal does not go through the cable's capacitance to go back and forth between amp and speaker.Therefore,speaker cable capacitance has very little deleterious consequences upon the accurate transmision of music along the length of the cable.

On the other hand ,resistance and even more significantly, inductance, both have very profound affects on the musical signal.

The resistance of a cable is determined by its cross sectional area and by the material of the conductor.The larger the gauge,generally the lower the resistance.
Low resistance cables have a low propensity to effect frequency response deviations with a given loudspeaker while
high resistance cables have a higher propensity to do the same.The sonic affect of the cable will be dependant upon the impedance characteristics of the loudspeaker.A high, flat impedance speaker will cause little or no frequency response deviations( even with a high resistance cable)but with a loudspeaker that has impedance dips,a high resistance cable will superimpose more of a frequency response deviation.

Self inductance is determined by the physical intimacy of the 2 conductors of opposite polarity( hot & ground).The more intimately intertwined the conductors ,generally speaking ,the lower the inductance.Without getting too involved,it is safe to state,that the lower the inductance, the more extended the high frequencies.The higher the inductance ,the more rapidily will the high frequencies begin to roll off.

Both resistance and inductance,unlike capacitance,are critical to accurate reproduction ,because they are in series with the amp and the speakers.The music must pass through the cable's resistance and self inductance.

It is precisely for the above noted reasons that the Coincident CST1 and the Total Reference Series speaker cables ,have been designed to be low resistance and ultra low inductance and only medium capacitance.The proof of any design ,is the sonic results with a very wide range of available associated components.Our experience and those of many hundreds of Coincident cable owners would appear to substantiate that Coincident cables sound superb with virtually all components.
Thanks Israel. I may indeed have the wrong end of the stick - but I have found that a very few amps do react badly to medium/high capacitance cables, despite low resistance and inductance. Perhaps my experimentation is not sufficient to identify the actual causation. I must emphasise that despite experimenting with many amps I have only come across two that had a problem with high capacitance cables.
Cable capacitance may be relevant in cases where circuit impedance is high.It is therefore not recommended to have high cable capacitance on the output circuit of a preamp with a source impedance of a 500 ohms or higher.The output circuit impedance of a power amp is ,however,very low,usually in the range of .1 to .5 ohms which is far too low to be affected by the shunt capacitance of even the highest capacitance speaker cables.The only possible exception where high speaker cable capacitance could be audible would be the case of a high output impedance preamp being mated to a very high output impedance amplifier like a Sonic Frontiers(somewhere in the range of 6 - 10 ohms)connected to a low impedance loudspeaker.
Thanks Israel. We were using very low impedence speakers, and so that may have been the case.