Which cables go with what?????


I never fails to amaze me, the questions people ask on this forum, always trying to find some synergy between cables and their components/speakers.

The fact is: there are two classes of cables:
1) Those that are neutral
2) Those that impose a sonic signature (tone controls of a sort)

If the average audiophile spent his time trying to weed-out the tone control cables and get some neutral cables, then all that would be left is to determine the right synergy between his or her components. This may mean elimination of an offensive component, as painful as that sounds.

Component synergy is real. Amps and speaker combinations definitely need to be selected carefully. In some cases also preamp-amp synergies are important. If you are using tubes, then there are even more compatibility issues. But cables, forget it. If you are trying to compensate for a poor component or speaker design by using tone control cables, you will probably never be happy and likely compromise the sound of the other components in the process. You will certainly never approach a live or "master-tape" sound. There, that's my editorial. Hopefully some will learn from it.
audioengr
Sonic_genius wrote:
"AudioEngr: If you have the education and experience that you claim then you would be a fool to be in the high-end audio cable business."

Not really. I've already had a 26-year illustrious career in the computer industry and I took early retirement. I don't need the cable business to survive. I do it because I'm passionate about it. This has several advantages:

1) I'm not going belly-up any time soon
2) I'm doing this business for the right reasons
3) High-end audio shows are really a kick
4) I like the people much more than the egg-heads that I worked with in the computer bussiness
Corona, isn't disagreement and discussion allowed here? Can't we have opposing view points and still enjoy the same hobby.
Audioengr is far better educated than I in these matters, we still disagree, but that doesn't mean that each of us is not entitled to our opinions and the ability to argue them in a civil manner. How boring would this site be if everyone agreed on everything.
I have learned a lot from people here, even those with which I disagree.
Audioengr, keep up the good work!
What an awesome thread! I love it! :) The first three posts hit the nail on the head in one way or another - that being the simple FACT that nothing we have to work with in audio is truly neutral. Everything on this planet produces a sonic signature of one type or another when energy is applied to it, and to assume that it doesn't is pure fantasy.

Audioengr wrote: "If the average audiophile spent his time trying to weed-out the tone control cables and get some neutral cables, then all that would be left is to determine the right synergy between his or her components."

Audioengr, do you have stock in FedEx? UPS? :) Reason I ask is I cannot personally imagine the amount of cash *I* would have had to spend over the years shipping an endless variety of components in order to obtain perfect, ideal synergy between designs from different manufacturers from every corner of the globe. Tongue in cheek of course but no doubt FedEx and UPS certainly benefit from all this insane audio buying activity.... Doncha think?

To that regard, I would personally rather be paying the shipping costs on 1 pound cables vs. 50 pound components. Am I crazy?

Audioengr wrote: "In some cases also preamp-amp synergies are important"

Hmm... I cannot think of a single instance where preamp "synergy" is NOT important. It doesn't take an audio engineer to understand that resistance applied to the lowest level signal in an audio system and / or amplification of that very same low level signal could potentially do the most to alter that signal -- or does it?

So from your statement about preamps - I gather you don't view them as too important. What about source components? Are they important? Also you're forgetting what may in fact be the most significant "component" in any system - the room.

IMHO, cables are a god send - tone controls or not. I would rather place a cable in my system than undergo a 6 month construction project to correct the acoustics of my home.