Time to get things straight.


Every person that states the Technics 1200 is THE best TT in its price class risks himself to getting Flack from the belt drive crowd. I have posted that Thorstens speaks highly of it and here's some of his quotes as posted in the Asylum:

"And yes, the 1200 with a better arm is dynamite. Even stock with minimal tweaks it's an easy Rega P2/3 killer."

"So don't knock it if you don't know it. A Rega Planar is a cheap bearing and Motor stuck into a piece of MDF, the engineering content for all intents is ZERO. The only worthwhile thing on the Rega is the Arm."

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And from Steven Rochlin:

"Hmmmm... I DO AGREE that the 1200 does not have the overall "ultimate" PRAT of my VOYD setup (or a finely tweaked Linn LP12), though overall it really does have nice, smooth, consistant PRAT that blows away even the $20k+ Goldmund Reference and the like. Maybe the 1200 does not the worlds best PRAT, but DARN good. Over 10,000 dance clubs around the world prove it virtually every night."

"The Technics SL-1200 in its various offerings are EXCELLENT!!! Do not listen to those "belt drive only" folks. Wonder if they know that the highly praised Goldmund STUDIO turntable was direct drive? Anyway, the 1200 is probably THE BIG BARGAIN in turntable land. Great motor, good platter, built to take a lickin' and keep on tickin' (with apologies to Timex, whose watches ALWAYS broke after a month for me).

"Over the MANY years I have used more than i care to remember 1200 tables at MANY clubs. They ALL worked flawlessly and even after all the, er, um, abuse of back scratching and needle dropping and vinyl dropping they just kept going and going. IMHO there is pretty much nothing on the new market under $800 that comes near the 1200 in speed stability, drive, and overall PRAT (pace, rhythm and timing). Given the right needle i can only see great things UNTIL you get the upgrade itch and go for a used Linn LP12 or VOYD. Besides, what other "audiophile" table would you play Led Zeppelin backwards to hear all those Satanic messages? Oh how about ELO backwards to hear the secret message?"

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Wake up, people!!!

So much for glass and particle board...
psychicanimal
"Don't knock it if you don't know it" ... have you owned a Rega table ?
Also I don't know why you always use the glass and particle board argument against the Rega. Is there anything wrong with these materials ?
But at the end of the day I like my Rega and you like your Technics so we're both happy ... why do you insist on soliciting flames ? You're like the woman who wears a low cut top and a wonderbra then complains that men "look at her that way".
Twl- You don't have to make the upgrade to the 1200, the Sansui and the Cerwin-Vegas at the same time. You can trade up to each one at a time as funding permits. With any luck, your hair will be long enough just about the time that the system is complete. If there is any cash left, get some Peter Max black-light posters.

Regards
Jim
Thanks, Jimbo. I was beginning to get "audiophilia nervosa". FYI, I used to have all that stuff years ago, including the blacklight posters and a strobe light. Inna gadda davida sounded perfect that way. Those were the days!
An anti-Rega/breaking the chains of Technics oppression thread? Really worth while, especially since most of your posts pertain to the same topic. Good tact...way to promote a TT and justify your choice...send out fliers. Everyone who posts Rega is the best table in its price range bears the risk of getting flack from you (and whomever else), so what?
A fellow audiophile who is very knowledgeable--and a 1200 owner--e-mailed me once that trying to make people see this fact was like having a conversation with elderly people at an asylum. The lights are on but there's nobody home...

Why someone like Thorsten would post that "A Rega Planar is a cheap bearing and Motor stuck into a piece of MDF, the engineering content for all intents is ZERO." ? Because it's *obvious*. Yet nobody has addressed here that the Rega's are indeed overpriced.

That's the point--it's very simple and straightforward. Voodoo rules, and that's why this hobby is dying at a very fast pace. I was just having lunch this weekend with one of us and were talking about how this hobby is dying.

Overpriced components get rave reviews and the mass just follows...there is a cult for "high end" which obliterates good, reasonably priced products--just look at the madness over cables. Twisted like this, stranded like that--when lots of pure, straight copper does the trick...just try some Tice interconnects and find out: simple design, straightforward construction--and he's calling it quits on cables.

I am grateful my system is close to completion---that's why I don't post that much. I am learning from a select group of people who are *for* the music.

I have an interesting observation: I brought two shelves made out of a rare non-resonant tropical wood. The wood was purchased and planed at an artisanal sawmill. I asked in several forums about using Bose 901's for home theater. "Coincidentally", the only two people that said it was a good move are the ones that I was having shelves made for...