Is 500 hours of break in really nec.?


I have been told that the Coincident IC needs 500 hours of break in. That is over 20 days of continual use. This sounds quite extreme. I have had my tuner on since friday evening (it is now Tuesday afternoon) and I can't help but feel guilty!
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If you have duplicates of any cable it is easy enough to test. I have already done it with Homegrown Super Silver IC's (had two pairs), Kimber Kable (had two double runs), BMI Whale PC's (have two) and Absolute PC's (have three and one of them has yet to be broken in). I will do a demonstation with the "virgin" Absolute PC for a friend the next time he stops by. I am currently breaking in a 47 Labs cable kit in one system and will be installing it in the future in another system. This cable has been all over the map sound wise in 150 hours of play. The silver IC's mentioned above were unlistenable to me for the first 125 hours, but have resided in my system ever since as they sounded great after 200 hours of play. The only cable that I have yet to use that seemed to form its sonic sound very quickly has been the micro wire digital IC from Mapleshade (it evened out in an afternoon of play, perhaps 4-6 hours). I would assume that another factor is how much current of signal is being passed through a cable in regard to break in (and what type of signal it is). If I were to break in speaker cable for instance at low listening levels, would it take longer than at higher listening levels and does the type of music or signal effect this as well? I have also discovered that allowing cable to rest for periods (instead of running it in 7/24) seems to speed up the break in process. What I do now it to run cable for 7 hours, give it a break for an hour or so and then run it for another 7 hours (around the clock). I was originally concerned about the CD sources getting too hot, which is why I allowed the resting peiod, and found out that the break in procees seemed to accelerate with this method over the 7/24 method. I have no idea why this would be, but having broken in identical cable this seems to be the case.
PS: In regard to the Coincident cables and 500 hours (that's a long time!). I would hope that they sound pretty good at 200 hours or so and that the rest of the time is just fine tuning. I have found many cables to sound "good" at 100 hours or so and then just get a little better afterward. I have also been off work the past year and listen to the systems a lot, so this situation is a lot different from coming home from work each day and just listening for a few hours in the evening (with a television blaring in one of the other rooms and the microwave oven going non-stop:-).
Re. "familiarity factor" in break-in. During the first 5 minutes I listened to my NBS Statements, all I could think was: this sound is so gigantic, so "over the top," so steroidal ... I wish I could have this sound ready "as a secret weapon" anytime I want in the future. Of course, as the cable broke in, the sound became more civilized. A good thing, since I would not have wanted to listen to a cable so big gestured as this for very long. And I have never fully been able to recreate the "first 5 minute effect" except by pulling the Statements out of the system and replacing them with something thinner sounding for some time and then putting them back in. --Another cable that is "all over the map soundwise" when breaking in is the Siltech. Try out their big powercord on any component in your system and you will think for the first few hours that someone disconnected your tweaters. --As for the Coincident IC, this cable sounded confused and disorganized out of the box (I mean, the bag). I broke mine in last summer for 336 (14 X 24) hours straight during vacation. I hooked them up to an old CD player and ran a very loud recording over them direct into a preamp 24 hours a day. When I came back back from vacation, the cable still sounded dry and overly tight in the midrange, so much so that listening to vocal recordings on it was unenjoyable. I broke it in for another 168 hours and it relaxed a bit further. I ran some comparisons between it and a few other cables on a Stax headphone unit and decided it was definitely a contender. I then used it as a phono cable for a few months on my TT set up (Simon Yorke w/ Transfiguration Temper Supreme). At first, I was pleased: it was clearly superior than a Fadel Art phono cable I had been using. But after awhile I decided the Coincident's weak spot consistently seemed to be with voices--too dry, not rich enough for my taste--and bass--slight lack of countour and shape. I eventually wrote the person I bought this cable from about these problems and eventually replaced the Coincident with another cable on my TT set-up. In the end, the Coincident IC got switched to my recording studio and performs superbly as an IC cable on projects that do not involve voices.
Sol322, You asked me to report back on my comparison. Before I started this thread, I started a thread called "Coincident or LAT or Madrigal". One of those that responded was Redkiwi, below is a copy of his repsonse and I found it to be exactly as he had stated.

"While I rate the Coincident highly, I find the (Meridian) 508-24 to be a tad laid-back, the JPS to be a tad forwrad, and the Coincident to be a tad laid-back. Hence changing from JPS to Coincident may not take the Meridian in the right direction - but only you can judge that.."

I will leave the JPS connected to my CD player for now and the Coincident to my tuner. Maybe when more break-in is done on the Coincident I can do it again.

The JPS cable is the SC original, not the SC+ or SC2. Both the JPS and Coincident are balanced. They are run through a ML 383.