brulee fails PC challenge


Big mouth brulee failed the PC challenge. Never had any doubts that the better PCs could make a difference. I know they can and do. Thought I would give it a try just to make sure big mouth knew what he was talking about. There was no pressure. I was all alone. Switched out the FIM PCs and put in a couple Beldon PCs. Just as I thought. The magic was gone. This is going to be easy I said to myself. Put the FIM back in and it sounded as bad as the Beldon. Images were stuck to the face of the speaker and was very dry sounding. Next day I listened again and all the magic was back. Big, liquid, flowing music was back. Swapped them out again and same thing happened. How can I take on this PC challenge when it takes the next day or at least several hours before the FIM PC comes around. I failed this test. I am convinced PCs make a subtle to dramatic difference but I still failed the challenge. I am very happy no one was there to say "I told you so". I am a believer in PC but what can be said of someone who constantly touts the benefits of PCs and then fails the PC challenge. I'm glad my friend Jhunter was not around. Any ideas to keep things stable? PCs do make an improvement, just ask the guy who failed the PC challenge. Any help would be appreciated.
brulee
Bruce -

Interesting that I just posted the results of my own challenge! I don't see why it should take time for a PC to settle in, however, you might be able to keep one cord powering another (unused in the test) component and then switch it in; this should alleviate any question of break-in.

Next trip to LA is no later than latter half of July; probably the third week. Let's see if we can set something up then!

Cheers,
Jhunter
JHunter: It would seem from what I experienced when rerouting the speaker cable, that bending the wire is a part of what effects the sound, as it was just moved and not disconnected. I would guess that this would vary depending on the design of the cable. I was using Kimber Kable by the way.
In any "scientific" comparison test, you want to keep the test conditions as stable and repeatable as possible. Before the electrical engineers jump in with their recommendations, here's some of things you'd need to consider to increase the "validity" of your testing.

1. Stable Power -- dedicated outlet, same time at night: (i.e no variations in current from utility). Maybe even a PS 600 regenreating the same AC wave?? (Not sure if that's such a good idea).

2. Multiple double blind testing: You need to do the same thing many times and wipe out any personal biases by having someone else switch the cords and not tell you which one is on. Then you need to repeat the whole process with another listener ... and another.... well, you get the idea.

3. I can't explain the cooling off period (perhaps the electrical gurus on this site can) but it could be that a power cord "sets up" the component by alternating in some minute way the electrical components -- or in the case of an inferior cord, disturbing the balance, causing interference, or filtering out some needed component of the AC sine wave (sounds crazy -- but how else would you explain the "cooling off" period -- besides, we're dealing with electons here!) If this is true, until you can record and playback in SACD mode, you probably cannnot do back-to back reference testing. One suggestion would be to try to see how short the cooling off period can be made -- perhaps it's only an hour. Then, you'd have to take substantial notes, have others witness/agree with the results to again avoid personal/percieved or even unintentional bias.

So... now you know why it takes 15 - 20 years to get a drug through scientific testing and approval. Isn't science fun!
Just be thankful you're not required to do animal testing and then publish in a scientific journal.

For us audiogoners who would just like a little bit of logic and justification intermixed with "I CAN here the differnce" observations before we plunk down another grand on a PC, your observations, in as closely controlled conditions as are practical, are still very helpful and appreciated. And you'll probably do a better job then StereoFool, The Absolute Nonsense and those other "scientific" magazines we pay too much homage to. Please proceed!
Brulee very big of you to step up to the plate.
I have limited exposure to PC.I did replace the stock cord om mt Rogue 120 with one I made up myself.Big improvment in the bottom end.Some bass heavy tracks which sounded boomy got tighter and more defined.
I dont know if spending big bucks on these is the answer.I just might have to se if I can get a hold of a big buck unit and compare.
Explain... You let the FIM settle in and then it sounded good to you. Did you let the Beldon settle in also?? Sounds like you didn't. How does a settled in Belden sound?