What is the next Phono Pre-Amp for me?


I currently use an ARC PH3SE phono pre-amp with an ARC LS 25 L/S.
My cartridges are Lyra Helikon (reg output) and the Benz med output MC.

What would you recommend as my next step up?

Herron? The Groove??

I am open to suggestions!

Thanks...
rwd
i have the herron, and had considered the groove. while i have not heard the groove, it's rep is very respectable. i have enjoyed the herron tremendously. it is in a tubed system, and seems to have great synergy with the rest of the stuff. the groove and herron are both totaly lacking of contols (you must order specific boxes for different loads), which i appreciate, minimum interference with the signal. good luck and enjoy it.
It looks to me your system is well matched. What aspect of the sound do you want to improve? If you really want to "upgrade" and if you like the ARC sound, you might want to consider their Reference Phono and Reference II preamp. But they are very costly and I don't know how well they match the rest of your system. You might end up upgrading everything.
What's the rest of your system? Are you sure the ph3se is the weak link? Only a handful will best that one. Some to consider (in addition to yours & your choices) is the BAT VKp10 and VKP10SE, the ARC Ref Phono, Aesthetix, Manley Steelhead, and I'm sure a few others...
What interconnect and speaker cables are you using? An upgrade in cables may improve the sound considerably.