Tracking Force - Where to set it?


So a few weeks back I posted regarding distortion I was getting out of my right channel (Rega p25 w/ shure v15 xyz). I got a lot of help, much appreciated. It turned out that my real problem was not with the cartridge or table, but that I had followed Shure's recommendation to set tracking at 1-1/2 grams! Turns out that the bottoming-out and distortion I was hearing was cured by turning the tracking force up to about 1.75 to 2-1/4 grams, depending on the record.

The question now is, (1) is there an optimal tracking force, and (2) will force as high as 2-2.5 grams damage the stylus or vinyl?
dogrange
Exactly which V15 are you using ? Your post does not make this clear. I ask this as some of the earlier V15's are known to produce non-linear distortions as amplitude increases. If what you are experiencing is not a volume related issue, i would think that something is not set up correctly. Any of the V15 cartridges are reasonably good "trackers" and should be able to easily stay in the groove with a "real" 1 gram of tracking pressure applied. Sean
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His first post indicated the most recent model, so that should be a V15 V xMR, I guess. So with the proper tracking force set with a guauge and with the proper compensation for the brush stabilizer, maybe the anti-skate should be varied slightly to see if that works better. BTW, what tracks better than this Shure?
If in fact it is the latest V15, you can lock that stupid brush in the up position and pretend it does'nt exist! Then go back and check your alignment, over hang, azimuth,anti scate, Etc. Finnaly re set your force. Start with a gram and if that won't track then move up slowly but I would not got above 1.5 with this thing. I think that too much force kills the life of the sound with this cart. and makes it sound closed in and dead.
Pbb, my comments were based on the earlier V15's. I do not know how well the newer series compare to the earlier ( V15 Type IV, Type III, etc... ) series. Sean
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The trick to setting tracking force is to not use any sort of gauge at all. Simply look at the stylus (use a magnifier if need be) as you set it down onto a record with the cue...

Note the deflection vertically. The position of the cantelever should be precisely in the middle of the opening from whence it exits the cartridge body. In the case where that is hard to see (often it is) you can watch the deflection as you start with a very light tracking force, and slowly move it up... the deflection has a center *linear* region due to the suspension in the cartridge. You can see this region by eye with out too much practice. Below the region, the styus "stands up" too much. Above the region, the stlus looks "low" and too close to the body.

The ideal is usually in the center of this region. Since no two cartridges are ever exactly the same, this makes it easy to set the tracking to the exact condition of the cartridge you are using every time.

It may take a few times through - and checks with your gauge, but after that you can do it quickly and by eye every time!

Note, that it is important to ZERO the arm accurately, if you want to use the built in gram calibrated feature of many arms...

And, yes, I think Sean is correct you have to change the weight to compensate for the brush thingie...with my method you can ignore that and just look at the cantilever.

Imho, in MM carts there are *many* that sound way better than the venerable old Shure design... Ortofon, AT, and a few others come to mind.