Good, Neutral, Reasonably Priced Cables?


After wading through mountains of claims, technical jargon etc. I'm hoping to hear from some folks who have had experience with good, neutral, reasonably priced cables. I have to recable my entire system after switching from Naim and want to get it right without going nuts! Here is what I'm looking for and the gear that I have:

Looking for something reasonably priced-i.e. used IC's around $100-150. Used speaker cable around $300-400 for 10ft pair.

Not looking for tone controls. I don't want to try to balance colorations in my system. I'd like cables that add/substract as little from the signal as possible.

Looking for something easily obtainable on the used market i.e. that I can find the whole set up I need without waiting for months and months. I guess this would limit you to some of the more popular brands. Without trying to lead you, here are some I've been considering:

Kimber Hero/Silver Streak
Analysis Plus Copper Oval/Oval 9
Cardas Twinlink/Neutral Reference (Pricey)
Wireworld Polaris/Equinox

Here is my gear:

VPI Scout/JMW9/ATML170
Audio Research SP16
Audio Research 100.2
Rotel RCD 971
Harbeth Compact 7

I would really appreciate your help on this. Thanks, as always.
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...Damit! I hit the submit button instead of the edit button.

Organic insulators...best but in a manufacturing environment, not practical to do properly. Especially if you need to sell tons of cabling to support your marketing campaign. Oops, I shouldn't have said that.

Sean, you're findings about the Goertz S/Cs is spot on I think. I agree with much of their approach. Honestly though, it mifs me a bit that you seem to talk almost ex-cathedra about those cables when you have no knowledge or experience about our speaker cables...the Ridge Street's are better (but of course and says I). Sorry to come across as a personal attack. My "mif" probably says more about my envy or jelousy than your comments. But I feel better now...LOL!?

Finally, again, some of you might visit our web site as a result of my previous post. I apologize in advance. The site needs to be overhauled (which will happen over the next weeks). While I think the site "looks" fairly nice, it's not informative as I would like it and it's really out dated from when it was originally done to where we are now. Not enough days in the hour to do everything I want sometimes.

Cheers,
Robert
Ozfly: That "15 minutes" was a joke. You got it, right??? : )

As far as your amp goes, it's quite possible that it does a very fine job of filtering out unwanted noise. The power supply that i described was simply a basic approach. There are other ways to achieve very good results.

As far as the "Goertz being neutral in most systems", that's how / why it works the way that it does. The problem is that not all systems work well with everything being sonically exposed for what it is and / or some people simply prefer specific colourations. That's why they resort to "band-aid" speaker cables that introduce non-linear distortions into the system. They use those distortions to cover up / compliment other distortions.

As i've mentioned before, you have to have a baseline to start with. Otherwise, you can end up changing cables & components a million times over and simply spinning your wheels. If you can get the backbone of the system to where you want it i.e. the amp / speaker cable / speakers / room interface "right", you now have something to judge the rest of the components / cabling by. Otherwise, you end up with a dozen different colourations and you don't know where to start / which is causing what / how each colourations is interacting with the others.

Psychic: I'm not holding my breath in terms of waiting for a reply from any manufacturer. Other than that, was your wording of replacing the word "beyond" with "beyonce'" a Freudian slip or what??? : ) Sean
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Sean, I absolutely got it ;-) .... just couldn't resist.

We're on the same, perhaps scary, wavelength on the subject of components and environment first. I believe I'm finally at the point where I can begin to seriously look at the cables. Goertz, Ridgestreet and others will be fun to try out when the next "audio budget" season arrives.

Sean, thanks for all the advice here and in the past. Audiogoners, that's a big fat ditto.
Robert: Kudo's to you for "entering the arena". You are braver than most : )

Can you explain or clarify this specific part of your post for me?

"Whether your fancy is Copper, Silver, Gold, Platinum or Polyflatulent, purity is important. The quality factor of a conductor or "Q" as I've termed it for us is more important and is distinct from a conductor's purity. A high purity/low Q conductor will not sound as good as a lower purity/high Q conductor. The later is also a more expensive material. A higher purity/higher Q conductor is best...da! and is a more expensive material...da da!"

My question is, how do you judge "quality" or "Q" as you call it? Since you've stated that "quality" has nothing to do with "purity", what parameters are used to judge just how "good" the "quality" of a conductor is? On top of that, if "purity" has nothing to do with "quality", why would a more expensive conductor that was "purer" be "better" than a lower cost conductor of reduced "purity" if the "quality" was equal? If this is confusing to you, welcome to the club. Sean
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Honestly though, it mifs me a bit that you seem to talk almost ex-cathedra about those cables when you have no knowledge or experience about our speaker cables...the Ridge Street's are better (but of course and says I).

I've offered Sean to lend him all five sets of Ridge Street Cables I have, now that I'm moving to Florida. He can keep them for a month or so...and perform all measurements, tests, etc. After all, he reads for me, cause I don't know how to read! He could even write a review alongside Lak's.

Robert, if you don't come up w/ some quantifiable info *pronto* Sean might confuse you w/ Robert the Lone-note. That's not good. It's actually very bad, bordering on the awful...

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