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SACD player is not that great.

Getting disapponted with this hobby. Bought a Sony 777 to replace my Pioneer/MSB DAC player. Thought it would be a huge improvement. For three times the price I got a monster player that just sounds different, not better; doesn't play movies and has no decent software available. OK- I am in it for the sound so forget about movies and hopefully the software selection will grow. The problem is mainly with the soundstage. Image is SMASHED!-no doubt about it. Sounds are now rarely heard from beyond the physical speakers, height,width, and into the room. Depth seems good, probably better. (sound is overall more recessed). Low end is also better. Also the case with SACD's-although they have more detail than CD recordings. The 96khz CD's I had (have) sounded better than my SACDs. It sounds as though SACD recordings are much better- but player sucks. Sounds like there is "more" between the much improved recording and the listener. Like my sytem got much better and someone covered my speakers with towels at the same time!! Yes it's burned in and yes it is on custom setting. Big deal. Maybe it's all those filters in the line or output stage or something. System is CJ11amp, Aud Ill 1 preamp, Spica, and MIT shotguns. You guys got caught up in the excitement and really over-rated this player. Anyone have a similar experience? Anybody modify this thing?
joekras
kenny
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Your choice of the word 'jap" is offensive. What knid of forunm is this? Let's be sensitive to others. No Honky, Nigger, or others please. Let's keep it hi-end
steven_kj4b25
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this is a great forum for people who are into hi end language like that is out of place anywhere at anytime. have some class? were you born in a barn.
ehider
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Geeeez! I'm so sorry that I offended anyone, by using the word "Japs", to describe a cultural electronic output stage methodology, in which Japanese cd player manufacturers utilize. I was just trying to keep my thread short and simple, and give Joekras an avenue in which he could improve his very expensive, and dissapointing purchace. I feel that we all deserve more than those crappy output stages, THAT THE JAPANESE HAVE ALWAYS USED (regardless of the price point they are charging!). It is very, very unfortunate (in my opinion), that no matter how much you spend on these so called "top of the line", Japanese, "state of the art" players, that they always employ cheapo op amps, or very unsophisticated output stages. Many audiophiles, (and many more newcomers) end up spending thousands for these "top of the line" machines, and then realize there is something amiss with their sound. What are they spending all of their big bucks on? The fancy face plate?, The big name? The fancy lights? All of us hard working audiophiles deserve better, when we pay big bucks for a piece of gear.

P.S.- I'm not trying to pick on any one culture. Don't even get me started on American car manufacturers' topology choices (which affect their overall durability and quality). They are nowhere near as good as the Japanese manufacturers!. Wow, now I'm slamming my own culture, and giving the Japanese the credit!. Just call me skitso.

Again, I appologize for not being more considerate, with my use of a politially incorrect, regional description.
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