RRL Cleaner, Vinyl Zyme, and Groove Glide


Ok,

I was the guy who was unhappy with my vacumn cleaned records a few weeks ago and I think I found the answer.

After cleaning with super wash and regular wash, then vinyl zyme, then regular wash, then groove glide,(I know it is time consuming!), I got to tell all of you guys that my records are Dead Quiet and Detail has improved alot. The soundstage perspective is a little more like sitting in row 35 versus row 20, but the smoother detailed sound and presentation is nice.

Just thought I would let others know that I tried these products in case others of you are interested. Definitely worth the money spent.

R.
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I'm working today so I'll put this off until I get some input and more free time. There's no sense in doing this unless others are interested. Perhaps I'll just soak the albums for a month or so, clean them and note any audible differences. But then, maybe my system isn't capable, in the minds of others, to resolve any differences. One last note on this. I'm not trying to be a smart ass or start any barbs between members. I'm genuinely curious as my findings differ from others. Honestly, I think the hardest part will be gaining access to a really high powered microscope without breaking my bank, not to mention a desire to photograph the resultant images. Should this become cost prohibitive I will need some ideas on how to evaluate on the cheap.
I use DD pads, the vac is an old NittyGritty (I think a 2.5 Fi). Operating surface is an orginal rubber mat from a Kenwood TT.

IME, using supermarket sourced, steam distilled water rinse, post RRL was not a good thing.
Post DD cleaning, I *do use the distilled rinse, per the mfgr's instructions, with very good results.

The only area I consider DD products to "win hands down" is in the amount of instruction and guidance provided with the products. The DD is contactable (?) via email, as I recall. The mfgr. of RRL is, AFAIK, invisible. I consider both products nearly equal.

Not being a chemist, but I'd guess the RRL products are a bit more "dilute" with a lot more very HQ distilled water; the DD has a bit more surfactants (more sudsy).

The last job was a 1965 45rpm ("Harlem Nocturne/ The Viscounts)to be given as a gift. Utterly garbage vinyl...the RRL just beaded up, like the record had car wax on it. The DD flowed smooth onto the surface.

Different strokes for different vinyls. It's easy to experiment...
> Using a distilled water rinse *after using RRL is a distinct no-no.

I do not have a cleaning machine yet. But I use RRL.
Should I just leave it on the record after cleaning and not using destilled water ?
Yes, rinsing with DiH2O after using RRL is like brushing your teeth then gargling with Pepsi. :-0
Mmmhhh... interesting. What I don't understand is why is distilled water not clean. I have to point out that I use or own distilled water, we have a Pure Water machine which distills water. And this water is supposed to be free from anything. Some evidently information would be great.

Thanks