RRL Cleaner, Vinyl Zyme, and Groove Glide


Ok,

I was the guy who was unhappy with my vacumn cleaned records a few weeks ago and I think I found the answer.

After cleaning with super wash and regular wash, then vinyl zyme, then regular wash, then groove glide,(I know it is time consuming!), I got to tell all of you guys that my records are Dead Quiet and Detail has improved alot. The soundstage perspective is a little more like sitting in row 35 versus row 20, but the smoother detailed sound and presentation is nice.

Just thought I would let others know that I tried these products in case others of you are interested. Definitely worth the money spent.

R.
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Colitas,
Glad you got it working. I agree about the amount of RRL, less is more IME. Typically I dribble one row of almost-touching drops across the grooves, excluding the runout grooves. That meters the # of drops relative to the amount of groove space to be cleaned. If I use any more it actually cleans *worse*, and costs more of course.

If you want me to test clean a few records no problem. No charge except return postage. Drop me an email and I'll give you my office address to ship to (safer for receiving than my unattended front porch).

Shasta,
I love Mikey as much as anyone (20 minutes/side?!) but there are two music lovers in my home who will politely disagree with your view on VTA.

If all lacquers were cut at the same angle, all records pressed on the same vinyl then you'd be right. But they weren't and they aren't.

Whether you choose to ignore those facts or optimize for them is up to you of course, but don't assume that someone gets less pleasure from music than you because they take a few seconds to adjust their rig for each record. Do violinists enjoy music less than clarinetists because their instruments need constant tuning? You do whatever your sometimes imperfect tools require.
I loved Mikey as much as anyone until I heard him state that RRL was alcohol based during his turntable seminar at the Stereophile show. RRL's distributor, Garth Leerer of Musical Surroundings was assiting Fremer (because he was using Clearaudio tables), told the crowd that RRL has never used alcohol. Fremer had a puzzled look on his face.

How did this excape Mikey? He's Mr. Analog. He helped save LP playback.
jes45: That's no reason to stop liking Mikey, it's just a reason to remember that we're all human, can make mistakes and sometimes operate under pre-concieved albeit false notions.

Ten bucks says that Mikey won't make that mistake again though... : ) Sean
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Hey, it was a show. He was probably a bit alchohol-based himself when he said that!
Thanks Guys for the hints.
I'll go with DD, when our house still stands after this hurricane.

Shasta, I tried VTA but I am not ready yet. The Denon DL-103 has only 20 hours. And I guess it should be driven in before.I tried the VTA on the MMF-7 and could not hear anything. I gave the MMF-7 back, because of quality reasons, anyway. I still have a TD-318 but huntig for a Thorens 2001/5020. In the meanwhile I give my best with DD. I can hear some pops after cleaning but it mostly disappears after 2-3 times playing. Thanks

Styx