Ur Welcome ... For what it's worth this DAC has not stopped getting better. I'm waiting for the ceiling. My system is pretty dang revealing and I guess it could be my Wilson's speakers still breaking in as well but in my system it has not leveled off yet. For the guys using and/or complaining that are rolling w/o a pre. Really, for real at this level w/o a pre? You should buy a serious pre first, To each their own and all that but the pre? No pre? It's just not how it is supposed to be regardless what the OEM's spew out. The pre is where it's at. It's the blood and guts and would never ever consider optional but that's just mo. Anyways there is a progression and pre's in hobby are not really optional. There just not and especially at this level. I couldn't imagine this hobby w/o a pre.