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Cable run in burn in time

Hello,
I am doing a research on cable burn in time. One of the answer came from a sellman on local audio store was that if as long as I disconnect the cables from the component I have to restart again. The time is depends on cables maybe shorter or the same as begining to burn in a new cables. He said that during burn in a cable or on regular play, signal will settle down the cable and also build up the electro magnetic around it as same as the component. So as soon as the cables are disconnected the magnetic is discharge. If this is true, the cable cooker is a help but not much because the cables have to disconnect from the cooker, and testing a cable to match up a system will be harder and longer.
Thanks for all your opions and helps.
Regards
amthanh
jayceem
22 posts
 
Cable burn-in is all about the insulation part and not the wire itself. The insulation absorbs energy from the conductor when a current like music is flowing.This absorption causes the insulation's molecules to re-arrange from random into uniform state, and when done the insulation will absorb less energy and so cable will be broken-in, giving less distortion. To remain broken-in the cable must stay connected to the hardware which must remain powered. Where no signal is present the molecules return to random and the process has to be restarted. So you see it is a complete waste of money paying out thousands of $$ on hi-fi equipment because you never get to hear it at anything like its full potential unless you are willing to be charged and locked away for causing global warming!
sean
6,231 posts
 
Disregard the salesman. As a side note, oxidation occurs between connections that are not moved and / or re-seated over extended periods of time. As such, it is a good idea to carefully pull plugs / break connections and re-seat them occassionally. Sean
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sonic_genius
528 posts
 
I agree with Jayceem about the dielectrics. I do know in the case of capacitors that once they are formed-up they stay that way. I replaced some Solen caps with Hovlands once and when new they were bright and hard. After about 200 hours they smoothed out. I pop this preamp (Sonic Frontiers) in my system on occasion and it sounds fine every time.

I am now becoming suspect about cable cookers. On some cables my Audiodharma cooker makes the cables sound worse (Pure Note) on just 24 hours cook time. These cables were perfect before I re-cooked after I had my Siltechs in my system for several months. I called Pure Note and they said do not cook (they no longer use the Audiodharma). Pure Note says they have learned with their 7 nines wire that the cooker will temporarily alter the wire (makes it sound thinner) until you put several hundred system hours on them again. I believe AudioEngr (Empirical Audio) had the same findings so cooking may be a bad idea with some cables.
brucegel
151 posts
 
several decades by which time your hearing will have changed and all you will hear is the stereo subwoofers in your system any way.
sean
6,231 posts
 
On the Audiodharma, the load resistance is far lower than it should be for interconnects. This can cause a far higher level of current to pass through them than they would ever see in any given audio based circuit. If the sonics are being "damaged" by the Audiodharma, that would be my guess as to why it is taking place. As such, changing the load resistance should not be a big deal and would correct the problem for future use. I don't know if Alan has corrected this in the current production models, but if he hasn't, he needs to.

As i've said before, not all cable cookers are created equal. My personal thoughts were that the Duo-Tech was a piece of scrap. Maybe there are more "pieces of scrap" burners than there are good ones. Sean
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