Out of production reference turntables

the goldmund reference is still up there with the very best, i agree the t3f was by far the weakest link on the combination, but the kuzma airline on the goldmund well.....

The Goldmund Reference was a wonderful table, but don't buy the T3F arm at any price....I've had a Rockport Capella now for 12 years and am done. Nice thing is Rockport is out of the turntable business, but will continue to support them and is very much in the audio business.....Just eleven of the early Capellas out there total so they are pretty rare....I had a Goldmund Studio with a Shreve Rabco on it and the Rockport ate it as must be 20db quieter.....Had a friend with a Goldmund Reference and his early Sirius ate the Reference with the Goldmund arms.....The Rockport as I say is likely 20db quieter than most anything else....Not sure I would do a big table (550 pounds) again as something like the RPM would likely do me fine and be a lot more portable.....CD sound has also improved quite a bit in the past 12 years so don't think I would recommend a huge table......No mine isn't for sale.....

Agree on the Goldmund.....fantastic table. The "syrupiness" can be tamed by putting it on a piece of granite/slate or a concrete floor. And I think a lot of the flavor ascribed to the table was actually due to the T3F arm, which I've heard be decimated by a Naim Aro and an SME IV.

Only heard a Rockport briefly and thought it excellent but tuneless. Never heard the Forsell.

The Oracle is OK, but doesn't belong in the conversation.

Best,

Bob

Anyone ever hear one of the tables produced by Tube Research Labs (designed by Paul Weitzel and brother of Record Research Lab's Brian Weitzel)?

"Only heard a Rockport briefly and thought it excellent but tuneless"......now there is a credible piece of info.....spoken like a true Naim 'crazy'.

the Rockport will simply reveal what the Lp, cartridge and phono stage is telling you. it really has no 'color' of it's own.

and btw, i like Naim 'mostly'.