Suspension vs. non-suspension turntables???

Dougdeacon,

I still have it on my todo list to get down your way for a listen. I'm helping my son and his girl friend move back up from New Jersey next month. We usually travel the Merritt Pkwy so it wouldn't be too much of a detour. I'll give you plenty of warning if I can make it happen. Hey, the cows are pretty good neighbors. They don't complain when I crank up the music and I don't complain when they bawl at 3 a.m.

Esoxhntr,

Where is your table in relation to the subs? I'm wondering if the problem may be airborne vibrations. My 10t's pack a hefty bass slam but I haven't noticed any issues with my tables. They sit to the left of the speakers, but farther down the wall from the first reflection point.

Also I am wondering if the studs in your basement are even in contact with the concrete walls. My basement is very much the same with the three concrete walls and the forth is framed as it is a walkout. We framed it 3 inches inside the concrete walls to keep moisture from wicking into the studs and insulation. You may also want to check how the walls are fastened at the top. If they just nail to the joists then there is no load to help damp things. Your wall stand may work better on the outside, load bearing wall. Just another guess.

Levitation I leave for myself. As for the table, I used 1000Lb. rate Stanley wall brackets and bolted a pair to the underside a thick slab of rock maple cutting board. Lag bolted the brackets into wall studs. You can place a glass of water on the deck, jump up and down like a gorilla or smack the wall with your fist without inducing a ripple. I am left with only concerns of air-borne vibrations. On the other hand, I have placed it on a Osiris Giza component stand (sand-filled for a total of about 150lbs.) to similar effect, but the wall mount is easier to reach!

Hi there,
being in the u.k. I have never heard many of the american tables - I did hear an Oracle many years ago which impressed greatly.
I have ten tables most of which are 'sprung'- I won't bore you with the details.
I would suggest trying your Roksan on Final Labs Dharumas or aurios(of any type). Since it is not 'sprung' as such, these work a treat. The Roksan imo - takes some beating, I have Linns, Lencos etc,etc.The motors in the Xerxes are very reliable, any problems are more likely to be the xps/dsu - mines were just overhauled for £90 and noticed a huge difference. Spend the money on better arm/cartridge for your Xerxes - my cartridge cost 12x what I paid for the deck.
Regards Simon
PS- I have tried the Xerxes on tables and wall shelves -imo it sounds better on a table. The Xerxes mini-table is a huge improvement ! It is only a piece of 12mm MDF with spikes but improves the sound no end - mail me if you want details/template.

I use a suspension TT and a Dennensen air suspension platform. Big difference!

After years of both types, my conclusion is that the best solution is a tt without suspension mounted on a platform that weighs at least a ton. This is impractical for me at this time. I have real problems being on the second floor with wood rafters. At present I use my Garrard on a special Neuance on a Refexa base on a second level Mana stand, but deep bass is still a major problem at high volume levels.