Is there a best cartridge track force gauge?


I have the Shure gauge, a Technics electronic gauge, and an AR gauge. I have seen many electronic gauges reviewed. Many of these are quite expensive. I would, however, consider one were there an advantage. What is the experience out there?
tbg
Tbg...I did think of the situation where downforce is applied by a spring. My old Empire turntable worked that way, and I believe it is the best approach because the arm can be mass-balanced so that vibration effects are minimized. With a spring the VTF will be affected by arm angle, but the question is, how much. In the Empire the downforce spring was a multiturn clock spring, and I doubt that a couple of degrees would have much effect.

But I do wonder. Since you have an accurate gauge, perhaps you would favor us with some measurements.
Newbee,very interesting comments.I agree with you,but have some pals that think they can hear the diff in downforce caused by vta,though.I,myself don't have that kind of ego,and cannot,nor do I care to listen that closely,unless I've had too much Pinot Grigio!

I do understand part two of your comments,but,once again you are right.It's heresy.

PS: HI,Doug.Hope all is ok in CONN,after the latest barrage of rain you got.
i use the Winn's ALM-1 electronic VTF guage good to .01 of a gram. i also have the Shure which works fine as a backup.

i agree that once you are in the ballpark it becomes a matter of tuneing by ear....so having exact tracking force measurements is not so critical.

but i do find that having the ability to make .01 gram changes that are repeatable has a value. as i own three cartridges and the Rockport arm makes it very easy to change cartridges; it is nice to KNOW you are back exactly where you were.

another benefit is checking the 'tune' of your cartridge. with such precision i will know if anything changes......and the process of measurement is very speedy......and the guage is easy to read.

the Winn's guage puts the stylus at the same height as the record so you know that the affect of VTA is considered. not cheap but i would buy one again......i've had this one for 6 years.
PS: HI,Doug.Hope all is ok in CONN,after the latest barrage of rain you got.
Thanks, we're bailing out okay.

It's a good thing I use a VERY heavy periphery clamp. Otherwise this silly wood turntable might just up and float away!
;-)
Mikelavigne sez:
the Shure (...) works fine as a backup
Mike, how do you get round avoiding the (cartridge) magnets attracting the metal base?? Whenever I get the stylus in the slot, the whole metal pivot sticks to the cartridge:( Of course the reading is way off...
Thanks