Vinyl Cleaning Fluid for VPI RCM

Nope, not a customer of Brooks. Acoustic Image. I don't think it is system dependent. I cleaned a couple of records with the RRL and all the air and upper extension sounded dull and muffled. I returned it to Elliot at Acoustic Image and told him my experinece. A couple of months later he told me that he too noticed the same thing. Anyway, that's my experience.

Rackdoctor, you might want to buy a new keyboard, your caps lock key seems to be stuck on! My ears hurt from all the shouting.

Rackdoctor, the experience of you and Elliot would seem to be extremely rare anomalies in a very large sea of folks who feel the exact opposite. Given that the RRL fluids are found by most everyone to be the purest of anything they’ve tried or seen, reports of “deadening the highs” are very hard to imagine. Something must be amiss in your application – or something. As to the claim of “hand lotion ingredients”, I think you should provide some solid proof in evidence. “I researched it” proves nothing to me. Where? When? How? I had discussions with the guy who developed the RRL fluids (Brian Weitzle) and, based on his sincerity and detailed discussions of the research and development process that went into making the stuff in the first place, I’d be nearly willing to wager my system that “hand lotion ingredients” are not part of the formula. Maybe you have it confused with another product which actually smells a bit of hand lotion. If you can actually substantiate what you say about the RRL fluids, I’d be all ears. If not, it is a very irresponsible statement which should be retracted.

I have used a few different cleaning solutions, and was always on a quest to find something better.

I tried Brian Weitzle's RRL products and took an immediate liking to them.

I am so satisfied that both of his formulas are now my mainstay.

I do look forward to trying Paul's formula, but haven't gotten around to it yet.

As far as the hand lotion thing-- I find Brian's products so very clean that I bet they wouldn't half bad as a chaser.... ehh, maybe not the vinyl wash as a chaser.

nevermind :)

I am not affiliated with RRL in any way, just a happy camper.

Richard

Torumat fluid, I'm not aware of. I have a regiment with Harry's VPi machine that includes the Nitty Gritty First precleaner (now available again), a rinse, then the Disc Doctor cleaner, then a rinse, with good results for records that are second hand. For the new ones I use strictly the Disc Doctor and a rinse with distilled water. Mostly to get rid of the mold release chemicals. This works quite nice. Garakawa have you seen the "Zen and the Art of Record Cleaning Made Difficult" article? it is worthy of review and can be found at:
http://www.musicangle.com/feat.php?id=54
It is a bit over the top but helpful. Cheers!