Vinyl Cleaning Fluid for VPI RCM


I have a VPI HW 17. I had been using Torumat fluid. I had 2 gallons I bought a few years ago and just recently ran out. It seems they must be out of business because I can not find it anywhere. If you know a source, can you let me know? If its not available, can you give me recommendations on a commercial cleaner that you like with the VPI or other machines(I don't want to mix my own concoction). Thanks for any input.

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Now that we all know that trisodium EDTA is a chelator and a preservative, (as stated by RRL), can we move on?

To answer your question Garakakwa, Brooks Berdan will start production next year, if the info from Rackdoctor is correct.

I'm certain that this is exciting news for you both, given your satisfaction with that particular product.

4yanx makes an excellent point, nobody besides RRL mentions what is used in their product. I wonder what Turomat, for example, uses? Just wondering.

Best wishes,
Jack
Jes45, I wonder about what chemicals are in those cleaning fluids myself.

I understand the need for manufacturers to keep the compositions of their cleaning fluids secret for business reasons, but I also see the needs for customers to know these compositions to make wise and safe choices or at least for their own peace of mind.

Manufacturers list the ingredients in shampoos, shaving creams, and toothpastes and still have no problem with fair competition for consumers' dollars. There should be a way to do the same with record cleaning fluids.

May be we are not as concerned about what we use on our records as we are about what we use on our hair but wouldn't it be nice to know?
>>Manufacturers list the ingredients in shampoos, shaving creams, and toothpastes and still have no problem with fair competition for consumers' dollars.<<

I worked in the chemical industry for 25+ years. The ONLY reason you see ingredients listed on personal care and food products is the government's interest regarding ingestion and skin contact concerns. The law requires the listing of every ingredient beginning with that of the largest volume descending to the smallest.

You might ask your record cleaning solution manufacturer for an MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet). It should contain the products used and the permissible exposure limits for safe use. It will not provide volumes. I'm not sure, however, if they're required to supply these for consumer use.
Stanhifi, I understand the Federal regulations and the reason behind the listing of ingredients in personal care products. I actually had to put together quite a few MSDS myself. But I purposefully omitted their mention to better focus on our topic.

My point was we should have a similar listing of ingredients for record cleaning fluids. After all, we do have concerns about harming our valuable records as well. Knowing the product composition will certainly ease this concern and propably help some of us use the products more intelligently.

Companies can chose to do something like this not because they legally have to but because it is the right thing to do. I think RRL's voluntary listing of their product's composition is commendable. While I have never used their product and cannot say anything about its effectiveness and safety, I admire their decision and will definitely give their product a try. No good deed should go unrewarded.