VPI Scoutmaster questions.........


Is this table much of an improvement over the Scout? How close could I get with a Scoutmaster with upgrades to the performance of the Superscoutmaster? I am getting close to purchasing my first and hopefully only table (don't want to buy and then upgrade six months from now) soon. I would appreciate any words of wisdom from the turntable crowd. And please don't tell me to get a Teres as I don't have then kind of coin or patience to wait that long. No offense to Teres owners as they are obviously superb machines. Thanks for all the help. You guys and gals make this hobby so much easier for me. I greatly appreciate your help and efforts.
nicksgem10s
Audiogon'r Slipknot1 made the upgrade from the Scout to Scoutmaster and has been very pleased with the improvements. I've heard his system with both and agree with his assessment.
The new motor/bearing combo in the Scoutmaster is SO much quieter. The background is a lot blacker, and the noise floor is much lower. I have noticed, with limited listening thus far, that my system is much more resolving at lower volumes than before. http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?vevol&1069279142&openfrom&78&4#78
If you then add a motor controller, such as the Walker Audio or VPI SDS, the Scoutmaster is very very good. I doubt that you'd be searching for an TT upgrade until much more in your system has changed.
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I upgraded from a Scout to Scoutmaster (and I also have the SDS). The difference is NOT SUBTLE. The Scoutmaster is noticeably better, as Slipknot noted. I found the bass is much tighter, the details much cleaner, and most importantly, the enjoyment much higher. It was certainly worth the reasonble cost ($975) for the upgrade.

I have not had the opportunity to hear the Super Scoutmaster, so I cannot compare. And to be honest, I am quite content (at least for now) with the rig I've got.
FWIW, Harry Pearson (editor of TAS) chose both the VPI TNT HR-X and the Super Scoutmaster for "Golden Ear" awards. Harry raved about the performance of the "Super", noting that as he improved the quality of the phono stages and preamps used with the "Super", he found the turntable sounded better and better. I know if I had $5k to spend right now on a TT, the "Super" would be my choice.