VPI Scoutmaster questions.........

I upgraded from a Scout to Scoutmaster (and I also have the SDS). The difference is NOT SUBTLE. The Scoutmaster is noticeably better, as Slipknot noted. I found the bass is much tighter, the details much cleaner, and most importantly, the enjoyment much higher. It was certainly worth the reasonble cost ($975) for the upgrade.

I have not had the opportunity to hear the Super Scoutmaster, so I cannot compare. And to be honest, I am quite content (at least for now) with the rig I've got.

FWIW, Harry Pearson (editor of TAS) chose both the VPI TNT HR-X and the Super Scoutmaster for "Golden Ear" awards. Harry raved about the performance of the "Super", noting that as he improved the quality of the phono stages and preamps used with the "Super", he found the turntable sounded better and better. I know if I had $5k to spend right now on a TT, the "Super" would be my choice.

Hello Nick, Yes somewhat confusing now almost like Goldilocks and the 3 Bears.... Which Bed, Which Porridge?

Well if money where no object the Super Scoutmaster is the way to go. If your on a budget you could go for a Scout, & add a few upgrades. The Scout, & Scoutmasters Wow & Flutter measurements are the same. The only difference is that since both are non-suspended designs the Scoutmaster adds 15 lbs. of additional mass dampening with it's double plinth design.

I would get a Scout, SDS, and upgrade the following... Ad the new stainless steel record weight, the new seamless anti static black belt, & purchase the 300 rpm motor upgrade kit to replace the Scouts stock 600 rpm motor. With the addition of some sort of isolation platform, or device it would then be a tough difference between the Scoutmaster, & the Scout.

I would spend the difference on a better phone stage, or cartridge instead. Yet the Hrx motor alone on the Super Scoutmaster is worth jumping for if you can stretch the budget?

I have had the Scout and now have the Scoutmaster in my system. I auditioned both the SDS and the Walker Motor Controller. While the SDS made a vast improvement in pace and rhythm, the Walker is in another league altogether. While it is almost twice as much as the SDS, the difference between the two is priceless. Backgrounds are blacker, and the focus and timbre of instruments are very well delineated. That said: I would also add that there have been numerous posts here on AudiogoN about the mass and control of the JMW unipivot arm and it's ability to handle very low compliance carts such as the Denon 103 series and the Shelters. I have three carts that I use with my Scoutmaster/Walker combo: Dynavector 17D MKII, Denon 103, Shelter 501 MKII. All three have their strengths and weaknesses, but all three work very well on the JMW arm, as long as you are willing to invest some time with careful setup and VTA. I currently have the Shelter installed and am enjoying what it does in my system.
If you decide to go the Scout or Scoutmaster route, and can swing the extra money, give serious consideration to an investment in the Walker Motor Controller. You won't regret it.