balance and single ended what I heard


I don't know about you but I tried balanced cables and without a doubt I thought the single ended sounde MUCH better and I am using inexpensive rca cables..I mean it wasn't even close,I found the balanced sound lifeless lacking tune,punch and feeling...I tried it a few times same result...any thoughts ??
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hey lemme@lone,what a pure crap response,this is the 2nd thread in recent weeks where an arogant response was left about a guys gear.

people put alot of time & cash not to mention heart & soul into their rigs & im quite sure that kinda response was not warranted.

mike.
superhonestben,i liked the mc252 so much that i went ahead & bought a 2nd mc252 & im running them as monoblocks with the c2200 preamp.

your thread got me wondering so i tried balanced against the rca inputs,there was a huge difference but my experience was the exact oposite,the xlr's not only produced a better & cleaner overall sound but my overall volume increased too with the xlr's.

the volume wasnt just increased either the xlr's raised the level where the amps began to klip,im leaving mine hooked up with xlr's from now on & im using cheapie xlr's too.

i wonder if eldartford called it right & there isnt somthing going on with your interconnects,a cheap way to try another set of xlr's is to go to your local guitar center & pick up a set,usually around $15 or $20 for a 3ft pair.

BTW,i love the mc252 c2200 combo,i went from a mc500 to running the 2 mc252's as monoblock's & im extremly satisfied as they are very musical amps with big balls too!

mike.
It looks like you have tried only the Monsters in the XLR balanced configuration. Quality of connectors and the care taken in the soldering process are also important factors in the audio fidelity of the cable. Perhaps Monster doesn't use a quality connector or doesn't have their soldering process up to the same standard as on their RCA terminations. Or maybe you just got a bad set of cables (?)

The other explanations about a truly balanced circuit vs. a "quasi-balanced circuit", as others have posted, also applies.
About a year and a half ago when I was using a BAT preamp and amp, I compared a single ended interconnect to a balanced one that were the same exact model and from the same manufacturer and could not perceive any difference.

It was suggested to me in these forums that it was possible the so called balanced intereconnect was not a true balanced design. This would seem to go back to the second point in Eldartford's response regarding the grounding pin.
Hey BigJoe thanks for counting, but I am only pointing out that cable differences are most likey not the cause of such dramatic loss of listenability as described.

On the other hand, it does not suprise me that using balanced vs single ended on a particuliar setyup is like listening to a completely different system.

Arrogent, give me a break!:)

steve