EMM Labs DAC6 vs. latest version dCS

I have to say I agree. I remember when beginning my stereo journey that I listened to a pair of Meitner mono amplifiers. They were extremely musical. The man knows what he's doing.

Thanks Mitcho, I am very much enjoying my Meitner gear. Very musical on one hand and on the other I have grown to appreciate their operating reliability, knock wood. The Museatex transport and DAC has operated flawlessly over the years with both CD's and CD-R's. The 100w mono amps have yet run out of power even at some very high volumes.

No, I did not realize that Mr. Meitner had said he based SACD on the BIDAT.

IMHO, Romy *IS* right about the Bidat. For those of you who have not listened to a BiDat with the complete, latest modifications by John Wright, you are truly missing out on a product which is - on most types of music, significantly better than any one box CD player I've listened to. Where the BiDat seems a little "weak in the knees" is in how it portrays large scale, classical pieces. Otherwise, the BiDat sound is very life-like and has a completeness to it which is truly remarkable. Digital artifact seems to disappear with this unit and is replaced with something that seems so very natural.

Tireguy - Romy knows his stuff. I wouldn't consider his input as trolling -- necessarily. It seems to me he is rather eccentric and even a genius perhaps, when it comes to audio.

That said, I think its safe to assume the DAC6 is potentially better than the BiDat -- I don't know, I haven't listened to a DAC6. However - if you do searches on Audioasylum, for BiDat, you will ultimately find a post Romy made where he says (in so many words) his BiDat rivals his SME20.

*I* can confirm that the BiDat does in fact come scary close to the SME20 when playing similarly mastered material if paired with a good transport and the RIGHT CABLES. This is something that cannot be said for most any one box CD player and/or transport/dac combo.

Yes, I would expect that the new DAC6 might be an exception.. Ed certainly has come along way with his latest creation but I would be willing to bet that a properly modified BiDat (which can be found for < 1/10 the price of a DAC6) would sure put a smile on the faces of people who cannot afford a $10,000 CD/SACD machine.

Bwhite- Romy has interfered with more then a few threads and essentially ruins them- I didn't want to see that happen again. Regardless of his knowledge of audio he approaches subjects the wrong way and I must admit I am sick and tired of it. You can not have a discussion of certain brands with out him poking his head in and adding foolish comments that have no bearing on the subject at hand. He will say this and that stinks but I call him and ask what would he recommend, and I get nothing. He does not contribute here he just takes.

Sorry to hijack the thread but I recently heard a re-tooled by John Wright BiDat using a hotrodded 333ES as a transport compared to a Channel Islands DAC with upgraded power supply. A caveat being that the BiDat was very fresh with less than 20 hours on it and IMHO it was more different than better than the CI DAC. Both DACs had a detailed and to my ears a musical (hackneyed to death) presentation and I might be persuaded to give the Museatex a slight edge in data retreival but the little CI DAC was not embarassed in any way running up against the much more expensive BiDat. Possibly a better transport and digital cable may have widened the gap somewhat but I can only report on what I heard.

As far as comparing the Meitner stuff I heard it at the show in Montreal this past March in a Halcro/Eggelston/Valhalla system and was less than impressed. I understand that the Meitner/Tenor/Kharma room was substantially better but unfortunately I didn't get much of an opportunity to hear it...