Interesting stuff about the Basic II. I do remember Martin Colloms' original Stereophile review of the Jade did mention the possibility of some advantages he ascribed to the older Basic II in bass and dynamics, but overall I think he preferred the newer unit, mostly for its smoother and more resolving presentation as I recall. When I was trying to decide whether to get a Pearl or a Basic II used, I spoke more than once to Ed at Theta, who is a very helpful and forthcoming guy. With nothing on the line for him or the company (both units were already out of production, as were all of Theta's CD-only products, the company having moved to DVD-based transports exclusively), he liked the Pearl a little better and thought it was worth the extra money used (a smaller increment than with the Jade), but I think part of that recommendation was derived from the difficulty in repairing the older discontinued Philips drive mechanisms in the II. Since the Stable Platter mechanism has now also been discontinued from Pioneer, that point may well be moot. I have seen some past posts criticizing the S.P. mechanism for its plastic supporting structure vs. the Philips' metal, but I don't know that this translates directly into a potential sonic advantage (the plastic used on the S.P. is very heavy and reinforced with molded-in cross-strut construction). However, I do believe it is true (somebody correct me if I am wrong) that the Basic II originally retailed for more than the Pearl that replaced it (though not as much as the Jade?), for whatever that's worth. Elgordo, care to elaborate on your comments with more specificity, rather than just saying "'Nuff"?