Universal Players. Marantz 8400 vs.Denon 5900


Neither of these Players are available for me to listen to. The previous Marantz Universal player got poor reviews and the Denon 2900 reportably does not play regular CD's well.

So can anyone help , how would the latest offerings from Marantz (8400) and the Denon(5900) compare?
SCAD sound, DVD-A sound,DVD-Video,CD,and DVD.

I have now a large collection of Hybrid and single layer SCAD's and DVD-A that I would like to start playing.

Thank you in advance.
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I don't know if you care, but the most recent Secrets shootout just came out. The 8400 did not fare well with picture quality. For me, that would be a big issue, but am about 50/50 music/video. The audio section is well regarded.
Just for info, and with a grain of salt, there is a review of the new Sony SACD-XA3000ES in one of the current English magazines. I don't remember whether it is Hi-Fi Choice, News, or what. I was in a hurry when I read it.

The author compares the Sony to the Denon 2900 and the Marantz 8400. He found the Sony significantly outperformed the other two, crossing the threshold of what sound truly "real". The Denon was proclaimed to be close but, just unable to cross this same threshold. The Marantz was also close but a touch warmer or lusher sounding and lacking a bit of transparency on the top end. All models passed muster in the SACD mode but, only the Sony crossed that threshold in legacy CD mode.

However, none of these units outperformed his Sim Moon Equinox. Its performance in CD was virtually indentical to the SACD performance of the other machines.

Anyway, don't take these comments as absolute. I read the article quick and am going by memory (which, at my age ain't the best by any means). It may be a moot issue anyway as the 3000 is not availabe in America, though I believe this is a sibling of the new 9000ES.
It was the last TAS...
Being Simaudio fan now, I enjoyed the comment about Equinox, which is the smallest one in their range
I own the Marantz 8400. Its Sacd playback is pretty good and maybe even better with DVD-A playback. The CD playback is not the best. Used to own a Arcam FMJ DV 27 and the Marantz is nowhere close to its performance on CD playback. I have compared the Marantz with the Sim audio Equinox, Naim CD5, Primaire and all of them were significantly better for CD playback. The CD playback on the Marantz to me sounded murky, less open and the bass definition was lacking.
Re The Marantz , try playing back redbook through the multi channel outputs not the 2nd CD out. I cant prove this, because The Marantz engineer will not return my phone calls , however I believe The Marantz has 6 HDAM outputs, meaning the dedicated cd output is just a regular op amp.
Someone also said the Original Phillips $2000.00 SACD player , which contains Marantz HDAM 's is the same way.