I've been in cricket, rugby, various photo and other forums and I must say I've never seen a group like this - helpful, informed, passionate - I'm new to the group but am overwhelmed by the quality of input!! Thank you, all. I have decided to audition the DV-50 for myself, in my sytem and if I dont like it, will try the Marantz. After all, I cant ignore someone who has the Classe Omega and says it (Esoteric)sounds similar. I will try it with Purist, Nirvana, XLO Limited and Synergistic i/cs.