TRL 595-how good is it?


I am a digital junky, so I have been thru well over a dozen players in the past 12 months. My favorite is the APL 3910. I just bought the TRL Sony 595 from the Tsunami auction, and will receive next week. Any one here have experience with this machine? I TT Paul from TRL and he said he is still shaking his head from disbelief on how good this puppy sounds. I am impatient, so would love some feedback. I also love the fact it is a 5 disc changer. Could it be a world beater? I have TT a person who sold his Cary 303/200 after burning this puppy in.

Ehquiring minds want to know

Thanks
711smilin
Hi Alex: Thank you for the information. I was posting what Paul Weitzel had told me, as I remember it. I'm certain that he advised burning in with a CD only, though I'm sure that using an SACD too will do no harm to the machine. If I get one of his modded machines, I'll follow his advice, since I wouldn't get one of his modded machines unless I thought he knew what he was talking about. Just as, if I got one of your modded machines, I'd follow your advice.

Cheers,
Matthew
Lkdog,

Why talk about me this way? I just tell it, the way I hear it. This is a fun journey for me, and I put my money, where my mouth is, not just words, like you. If in fact the TRL is better, in any way than Alex's mods, I will be HAPPY, Floored, astonished, and in no way would I keep it a secret. I am in this for fun, not profit. I would love to get the best digital for 700 bucks. I would be nutz not too. Only time will tell. BTW, since you are a professional modder, who are you?

Best of luck in your journey.
I couldn't agree more, LK Dog. When the lights are turned on, watch all the cockroaches scramble.

What seems evident to me:

1) 711smilin has no intention of giving the TRL unit a fair shake. That seems very odd to me. What would he have to gain by doing this? Does this seem odd to anyone else? Does it mean ... (although even if he did, why would I consider his opinion over anyone elses?)

2) Alex is extremely concerned about the TRL mod unit. (And he should be). Why any modifier out there would stoop so low as to flame a competitor in the same business on-line is beyond me. Alex's comments remind me of 3 of the 4 roofing contractors that gave us bids on a roof replacement a few years back. Three of them spent the majority of their sales presentation running down the competition. The fourth contractor didn't. Guess who got the job?

3)This has been a thread about the TRL mod, which is the best baragin that I've seen in audio (in my 30 some years in the hobby) at only $550 plus shipping.

4) Jayctoy: I actually had the Meitner DAC6 and modified 1000 in my system. Can you say the same? Really. Have you ever seen one?

5) Jayctoy: Did you know that Weitzel (TRL) used the DAC8 and ADC8 for almost a year for his live DSD recordings? Would you think that a man that actually had the unit and used it for live recordings would know the sound of each unit? (Oh yeah, I forgot to tell you, Jayctoy, the ADC8 and DAC8 are separate units. One is a D to A convertor and the other is a A to D convertor, eight channels each. Can you guess which one is which?)

6) Do a google search, Tube Research Labs has an impeccable reputation. Can this be said for others?

Something just seems a little fishy about this thread now. Why all the hatred?
Guys!!! Just a few points:

1- I used 3 CDs and 2 SACds in my Sony SCD-C2000ES while break-in the unit. I don't know any technical information on its design but what Alex said about the way the signal travels makes sence to me.

2- The SCD-C2000ES and 595 are basically the same units with a few differences. Both units are modified by TRL and the 2000ES is supposed to be a bit better.

3- The original message has turned into a dispute and we should stay on track. I don't doubt these units can benefit from any modder's work ( Alex, Dan Wright, Ric S, Paul or anyone else). Most units from many brands do, so we should stay with the TRL which is the one discussed.

4- Sarcasm are out of order. LKDog bring some good details and I appreciate the.

5- After 711Smiling is ready to report on the several units he had /will heard, we should stay calm and look for reports. His opinion will be usefull.

Thanks,
711smilin-

I think you are confused. I am not a modder. Just another music lover in this crazy hobby like the rest of us. My reference to a professional modder was toward Alex of APL as I thought it seemed odd that he would get involved in this discussion in this way-but that is his choice and he has the freedom to say what he wishes in the manner he wishes. People can draw their own conclusions about his comments and the manner in which he makes them.

I do think that it would be a good idea for A-gon to have Vendors/Manufacturers be identified when they post in the discussion forums. As crazy as it gets over there at Audio Asylum-this is a good rule they have.

As far as "putting my money where my mouth is", I am not sure what you mean. I own a TRL 595. I have owned or own other digital gear recently (Pioneer, Sony, Cary, Bel Canto, Echo Audio, Line 6). I certainly have not bought all of the gear recently that you state you have. You are free to spend as much money as you wish experimenting. Wish I could do so also :)

My wife would kill me, though :<

I guess I just question your relative objectivity as you already have publicly stated the following:

1) The TRL unit is going to your daughter and her friends to use for their listening and dancing; and for your "critical" listening you will use the APL.

2) You also then state that APL makes the best digital at any price... "Alex, chill baby, your APL is the BEST digital I have ever heard, anywhere, at and at any price."

You have a right to your opinion and I truly respect that, but at this point based upon your comments it would be difficult for anyone to take your views that seriously.

Have fun trying out the TRL and other gear you have on the way. You might like it, you might not.

I think folks may actually want to consider looking at the professional reviews that are coming soon on the TRL 595. They also may want to look at reviews/comments/comparisions from end users that do not state ahead of time what they already believe is best. I think there will be plenty of comparisions of the TRL with other units and people will figure out what might best work for them.

As for what is "best"- I can only be sure that this will always be debated and that is part of the fun for all of us. I do not think there is a universal "best". People like different presentations of their music.

I do know that Music is one of life's great pleasures and the TRL product has been a revelation in communicating the music for me-but that is just one opinion and we all know the old saying about opinions-everyone has one.

Peace.