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How do you deal with vibration?

Greetings all,

Many of us work very hard to keep vibration out of our equipment. I was hoping we could share our experiences with each other. I was wondering what other DIY methods people are using?

I personally have had good luck with shipping open cell foam under plywood. I find that about 60-70 percent compression works best. I place the foam underneath some plywood (Using spruce 3/4 inch). Then I place the component on the plywood. However, I think this more isolates the component from outside vibration. I don't think it does much to drain internal vibrations, especially in a CD transport.

Also I can not find open cell foam in town any more. I am ashamed to say that I actually went to Wal-mart to buy some. Now they don't carry it any more. So I was wondering where else I can get some?

I am currently thinking about building a Sandbox for my CD player and amp. Then putting the sand box on top of some sort of isolation material (open cell foam or cork rubber etc.) My thoughts are the foam or cork or etc should help keep the vibrations from getting into the equipment and the box should drain the internal vibrations.

Also, what are peoples experience with different woods. I live in BC so I can get most wood fairly cheap. I imagine every wood has it's own sonic signature due to it's resonant frequency. What works best? Solid maple, birch ply, MDF, walnut, mahogany etc...?\

Anyways, feel free to through ideas and experience (both good and bad) out there. It would be good to know what works and what doesn't.

Happy tweaking,
Nick
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eldartford
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Jadem6...No offense. And well-written comments. I drive a Honda CRV instead of an Acura, because it does everything I need and leaves me with enough money to fly my airplane. Same deal with audio. I could afford the most expensive gear (well almost) but I could never justify it.

This thread is about a general technical issue, vibration, and its possible effect on equipment, which would logically affect all levels of audio equipment. If anything, cheap stuff, with no designed-in vibration control would be most sensitive.

I know that vibration control is very important for LP turntables, and for tube amps. Some people have suggested that electronics are also affected, an idea that seems unlikely to me. However, rather than talk back and forth and work ourselves into a fit about this I prefer to simply make some measurements and find out what is really going on. There are many audio characteristics, like "soundstage", "transparency", "imaging", that I cannot measure and neither can anyone else. But some things, like sensitivity to vibration are easy to measure, so why not do it. If my findings do not please you feel free to make your own measurements.
eldartford
4,262 posts
 
OK. I did my DVD player, a Denon 2900 with Underwood mod.

As before, I appled a 125 Hz warble tone at 110dB measured by the mic resting on top of the player.

I used the Denon HI-FI Check CD, track 37 (digital zero) and track 38 (one LSB square wave). The player rms output was around -77dB and -76dB respectively regardless of whether the vibration input was ON or OFF. I paid careful attention to the peak reading (displayed numerically about once a second) because one might expect any effect to be of the nature of a digital data error. All peak data was consistent with the variations of the rms value.

Them is the facts. Make of it what you will.
stehno
1,453 posts
 
Oh how I wish I too were a relativist. Then I too would think we can all be right! Or was it wrong?

All I know is, I keep throwing my Jell-O against the wall, but it just won't stick.

I wouldn't be surprised if this thread is nominated thread of the year. Shoot I may even nominate it myself!

-IMO
tbg
5,263 posts
 
Stehno, almost all posts here and on AA end up with the same division between those who hear benefits and those who either say it is illogical that it makes a difference or that measurements don't lie and show no difference. If you hear a difference unless you like to argue like me, just ignore the din of doubters. If you don't hear a difference, also enjoy in peace.
sol322
426 posts
 
Rsbeck:

Many details were omitted in my post for brief purposes. Basic tweaking was performed like interconnect and power cable layout, the rack was on a small rug and it was removed so it was directly on the tile floor. Mass loading of the player was also tried but the cone effect mentioned was far more noticeable than any of the other tried things. Since he was so puzzled by this it was tried several times and the improvement was confirmed by him not by me.
If you got the impression that the untrained ears phrase was demeaning for my friend that was not my intent, I tried to convey the idea that in a not sophisticated listening environment and with people not complicated as we as a group are, there are ways to share our hobby without been or projecting the "complicated" image we have that is limiting in a way the number of people that could enjoy more music with lesser electronics but properly set up that could eventually become audiophiles.
I keep an open mind but first I love to listen to music and is far more important to me than the equipment itself. If tweaking improves my music enjoyment I do it. For me vibration counts and affects the enjoyment I obtain from my listening sessions.
Vibration tweaking has worked for me and is not my idea to "convert" anyone. Just again sharing experiences to motivate people to experiment themselves and take their own conclusions as you seem to have, I have no problem with that and I respect your choices since they are your own.
Cordially
Luis
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