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Revel F30, Dyn 1.8/3.0, V.A. Beethoven?

I am looking for a little wisdom and/or experience from the Audiogon knowledge pool-

Specifically, I'd like some opinions on a few different speakers that I am considering (it's time to separate the Audio from the HT). The speakers that I am seriously considering at this point (for the 2Ch system) are:

Revel F30
Dynaudio Coutour 1.8MkII or 3.0
Vienna Acoustic Beethovens
Joseph Audio RM30si

My system is as follows:
Ah! Tjoeb '99 CDP
AQ Emerald IC
Jolida 502a integrated tube amp (~65W/ch)
Goertz MI2 speaker cable

My musical tastes run from Enya type stuff, to jazz and classical. I am running in a very live room and would like all the typical attributes: solid powerful bass extension
(high 20s to low 30s should do it) excellent imaging, transparency, etc. My budget is around 4-5K and I am inclined to buy new or at least from a dealer (I just want to avoid any potential hassles if possible. Of course if Dekay, Cornfed or one of the other numerous regulars has a pair that they are looking to sell I'd strongly consider it :).

So, any opinions or experience with these (or others in the price range)? I have auditioned the Revel's and Dynaudio's fairly extensively, but have not been able to hear the others. At this point I am torn between the bass and midrange of the Revel and the incredible imaging of the Dynaudio's. Of course, not listeneing to them all in the same environment makes comparing a little tough...

Thanks for any info!
elorian
elorian OP
24 posts
 
Thanks for the excellent input Kirk. I do have one further question inspired by your post- could you give me some idea of the tradeoffs (in terms of sonic quality) in x-over choice? I understand from a frequency response perspective that the higher order crossovers roll the response of the driver off much more steeply, but have not ever heard a qualitative discussion of the way each tends to sound.

Thanks again for the info and best regards.
ou812
6 posts
 
Elorian, I have the following Revel spkrs. F30 fronts, C30 center and M20 for surrounds. They love power. I was running 120W to them and switched to power amp Acurus 200x5 ( these are 6 ohm so power goes to 250W per cannel)and the improvement was unbeleivable. They do require a burn in time. 100 to 200 hrs. The louder you go the better they sound.
I have AQ Gilbrator bi-wires to the fronts, this increases the bass.AQ Gilbrator to center, and type 4 to suurounds.
Any of the spkrs. you like are very good.
best of luck and enjoy the music
Denny
subaruguru
1,376 posts
 
Nice post, Kthomas.
Given a highly-reflective (live) room, I might suggest trying speakers in a relative near-field arrangement.
If so, then you'll want a speaker that coheres well in a short distance. This coherence is more apt to be aquired easily with a two-transducer design than a three-way, unless the lower cross-over is at a low frequency and well-managed.
Personally I VERY much liked the REVEL F30 (except its cartoonish looks!), preferring its midrange response to the Dynaudio, but am not sure how well its bass/mid cross (is it 250 or 400Hz?) will perform in a lively room, especially in the nearfield. I adamently second those suggestions that at-home demoing is mandatory...ESPECIALLY if yours is a lively room! Good luck.
joekras
60 posts
 
I have heard the Dynaudio and the Revel. My opinion is the Revel Performa line is underrated. Nice robust vocals and big image. Suprising open sound considering their rather wide front profile. I heard the Dynaudio's on several occasions and they are not for me. Great build quality, but where's the midrange/image? The Revels and Dynaudio's are very different and once you hear them I can't imagine anyone not choosing a favorite (one way or the other). As far as crossovers, I believe third and fourth order crossovers excel in driver integration. These tend to be much better at imaging. You can get more volume out of first order speakers. I am generalizing of course. I would like to hear the new Joseph's.
elorian OP
24 posts
 
Thanks everyone for all of the input- I think more auditioning is definitely in order; you've all given me some excellent food for thought.
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