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Please help with system synergy and imaging

Need help with my system. Basically my system is too laid back. By this I mean I have that row "z" sound. I have no image coming from the outside boundaries of my speakers and no image beyond the front plane. Sound is between the speakers only with a really deep stage. My system is as follows, Sony SACD777 (my previous MSB DAC had a more up front sound and actually images better in my current system), Aud. Illusions Line 1 preamp, CJ 11A amp (I believe it is considered laid back but I like the liquid sound), Audio Physic Virgo2 speakers, and MIT 330 and Shotgun cables (these are supposed to have a big midrange). What is my problem? Different cables? Get rid of the tubes? Back to the MSB dac? I don't like that deep dish sound and have already experimented with positioning (as per AP) and room size. Any help is appreciated.
joekras
cornfedboy
1,645 posts
 
you should be able to get to "row m," at least, by exchanging the mit wire with something on the more transparent (NOT the company) side. don't know your budget but i'd look to tara rsc's or, better, ism's, if the latter are in your range. - cfb
ljgj
955 posts
 
Get rid of the MIT's and do not run the Cd player into the amp directly without a volume control.
john_l
782 posts
 
I would lose the mit cables first. I tried some with my virgos and they shut down the upper range in a big way. I was trying the mit 750 spkr and the mit 330 i/c. For my virgo/pass labs system they were the worst cable's I've used.

To spice things up, you might try some cheap silver cables with that setup. I have not heard them, but the dhlabs are supposed to be very good cheap silver cables.

I had great results with nordost red dawn, spm, quattro-fil and the virgo's. Their ultra transparent nature really brought out the imaging magic of the virgo's. They also help to offset the resolution loss of tube gear. You can get into red dawn for 200 per i/c.

A cheaper setup would be to go with acoustic zen satori speaker cables and silver ref i/c's. Those lose some detail, but have a nice harmonic warmth to them.

A really cheap setup would be harmonic tech truthlinks and analysis plus oval 9's. Those will give you a very 'coppery' warm sound and will tend to shut things down a bit. In my system this combination did surpass mit by a healthy margin.
tpsonic
1,092 posts
 
Joekras, I have owned much of this gear in the past.All of it is extemely musical,but I'd have to agree to dropping the MIT. I sell the Omega Mikro cables.If you would like a good price on their cable,please contact me. I believe they would work well in your current system.You have a 30 day money back guarantee to fall back on,if they don't.Good Luck! Tom
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