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Amused To Death and Avalon Opus

I have been using Roger Waters "Amused To Death" CD to place my Avalon Opus loudspeakers. During my audition of the Opus, track 1 of this CD was played. I was startled when I heard the "barking dog" sound like it was in the next room on my right. After the audition, I came home and played the same track on my previous loudspeakers. Same effect. The dog sounds as if it is in my neighbors house next door on my right.

With the Opus, the dog does NOT come from the right, but behind me. I have moved the speakers, and my ASC room treatments, around to get what I believe is the correct placement of the barking dog. I can get some of this effect, but not 100%.

Any ideas?

Thanks
Rich Maurin
rmaurin
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We need some info to help:
Room size? Shape? Current positioning? How does that compare to the room you demoed them in? Is the room bright/dull/carpeted, etc.?
BTW, you should hear the vinyl of that album. It is OUTSTANDING! That dog is not only outside the room, he's barking at _you_!
rmaurin OP
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My room is 11.5 x 17.5 x 8 feet. Rectangular. Entrance to the right which opens up to a two story foyer. Speaker position is relative to the tweater: 30.5 inches from the side wall and 60 inches from the front wall. Nothing on the walls other than ASC sound panels on the side first and second reflection (left wall only) points.

Thanks,
Rich
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albertporter
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Go with Cornfeds suggestion. Amused to Death is one of my favorite LP's, but I would not use a dogs bark to set up an expensive set of speakers.

As already stated, if that makes the dog appear behind you instead of to your right, then so be it.

Just to add my personal experience to this, with my Soundlab speakers, which are bipolar, the dog is about 45 degrees to the right of center and VERY far off, but barking and growling AT everyone in the 17 foot width of my listening space.

This does not make my system better, it only illustrates that Qsound, being out of phase, will result in different sound imaging, depending on room, speakers and set up.
rmaurin OP
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cfb and Albert: I agree with both of you. I should have stated that I am using many CD's and LP's to place my speakers. Not just the "barking dog" CD. My apologies.

Dialing in a pair of loudspekers is not easy. Not for me at least. There are not enough equations that can be written down to solve for the many variables.

Rich
cornfedboy
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rich: dialing in a pair of speakers is rarely easy for anyone, no matter their individual experiences. a couple of weeks ago, my audio dealer and close friend had an open house, for the first time featuring avalon eidolon diamonds in the "main room." the vice-president of avalon, another good friend of mine, spent many hours "getting things right," notwithstanding his great familiarity with the room's acoustics, having setup several pairs of different avalon models over the years. in the end, the tweaking centered on the removal of some side wall acoustic panels and the insertion of tube traps behind and between the diamonds. the differences these fine tunings produced were startling. believe me, it's worth it to keep up your efforts. i'd suggest you pause for a bit, though, to establish a "control" for the finest of fine tunings. -cfb
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