B&W 804 nautilus OR Revel f30

forever- I don't see how your post was in any way helpful, 1chapper asked about two speakers and you say its "sideways" and then tell him that he won't have a clue what his listening for, whats up with that?? this hobby is fun to most(myself included) and yes mistakes will be made, but that is part of the fun. That's wonderful you have SO much experience but perhaps with all of your infinite wisdom you could tell us the differences between the two choices from all of your vast experience- to me that would seem a lot more helpful. ~Tim(just another novice)

Bravo, Tim

F-30 has more bass. Sounds more "clean". N804 sounds more open / less boxy and more "polite". Detail maybe not quite as obvious as on F-30's.

F30s are VASTLY better! The coherence is quite superb between the mid and tweeter, very much UNLIKE the 804N.
As well, the B&W's bass performance is quite lean, and difficult alleviate given that hot and splashy tweeter.
Consequently the Revel can be listened to in the nearfield...the B&W needs a good 10-12' to cohere even reasonably...but in a larger room it's now anemic. The better comparison is between the F30 and the 803N, in which case room size, treatment, and personal preference would prevail. I STILL prefer the Revel because its midrange is more neutral and the tweeter's voiced more smoothly, allowing a nearfield setup. The B&W803N works great in HUGE rooms pretty well, however.Hope this is helpful. My guess is that the Revel is the better choice for most applications. Its California-cartoony design isn't too decor-friendly, however.... Have fun.

Look at Thiel 2.3s They were much more refined to my ear than the B&W, and look a whole lot better than the Revel. I did like the Revel sound but in the end the Thiel was a better all around package to me.