How important is speaker positioning?My experience


System:
CAL Icon Mk II -> Sonic Frontiers SFL1 -> Classe 15 -> Thiel 1.2.

I have had this system for 8 years now, the only new
components being Classe 15 (2.5 yrs now), and cabling
(MIT IC's, speaker cable from Frank at www.signalcable.com).

Every change improved the sound somewhat, but I could never
listen to the system for a long time -- always ended up with
listener fatigue on any CDs that could even remotely
sound like that (fortunately, I listen a lot to Indian
vocal classical music where that is not so much an issue). I have moved several times, and the present room is
17'6" x 13'8". I painstakingly adjusted the
speakers about 3' from the side wall, and 3'6" from the
front wall, along the short wall. The soundstage snapped
into focus, and things sounded better, but the same problem
-- listener fatigue came very quick.

Then last week, I was looking at the Audio Physic website
(www.immediasound.com/AudioPhysic.html), and came across
their theory on speaker placement. To my surprise, there
was more to it than just place the speakers in the middle
of the room, and sit with back against the wall (ludicrous,
in my opinion). I will not go into
details (you can get them from the website if you are not
already aware of them), but I ended up placing the speakers
about 3'6" from sides and 4' from the front wall, and I
listen from my futon placed against the back wall (where it
always has been).

Well, I have been thinking of buying new speakers, but I am
in no rush now. The system is actually laid back now with
NO listener fatigue. I played music almost continuously for
4-5 hours today -- music other than Indian classical, and
cannot wait to get back to listening again as soon as I am
done typing this rather rambling post. I just wanted to
share my experience because I am elated. Just tells you how
important speaker positioning is. And I realized that to
an extent I needed hand holding through the placement. This
is the first document I have come across that does that.

Thanks for listening.

--amit
(Amit Mathur)
amit
Anybody ever try different hight on small speakers?
What do you think the golden rule should be?
Thanks for the input.
I can hear a difference by moving my speakers just ~ 1"! Therefore speaker position is very critical. Take time to do it right. Readjustment as long as the breaking in of the cables and the hardwares.
Small speakers...general rule....tweeter at ear level(sitting position)...which is roughly 36 inches...if you have monitors with inverted drivers...mid-bass driver on top...you will have to go higher to achieve the optimum...word to the wise...with very small mini monitors...go with 30 inch stands....
I have been re-postioning my A/V room for the last
day and have had GREAT results. I was inspired by this
thread and a prevous thread. The imaging is SO much
better I had a corner placment before(i was trying to save much needed room) but i got it all figured out with info
from you guys and WOW what a differnece I think i nailed it!
I want to thank ALL of you guys for sharing your knowledge and experience... You guys rock!

Now i do have one dillema left... I have two 12w x 24d
x 79h glass and wood curio (i think thats what their
called) cabinets and it would be nice if i could put those
BEHIND speakers. Back in corners I am very limited for space. Will that muck things up if i put them behind speakers. I was planning on putting some fake plants behind
speakers and i could still do that even with cabinets behind. If i do there will be approx 14 inches between speakers and cabinets... Any thoughts on this idea... is it bad idea?

I will borrow a quote from a movie.. i think it was War Games... "Hell i would piss on a spark plug if i thought it would help".. Thats where im at... If i have to start chucking furniture so..be it!