Speakers


I value everybodies opinion, so I would appreciate any input you fellows can give me. I realize how many superb speakers are out there but since I can't audition hardly anything do the fact I live in a rural area I'm having a hard time deciding on an upgrade to my sound system, mainly speakers. I have approx: $5000 to spend on a pair and want some mains that will do it all including some serious bass as I listen to a lot of blues,jazz, home theater, and occasionally some head banging rock. I've listened to B&W, nice but too expensive and NO bass. Dynaudio, real nice but I don't think I have enough power. I need speakers that can stand to be fairly close to the rear wall,ie:18 to 24". From what I've read here on AudiogoN (great site I love it ) most speakers are geared for super nice amps and pre amps., which I don't have, but planning on upgrading in the future. I'm currently running 80 watts per channel of fairly clean power. Any insight you guys can give me I would be greatly appreciate. Thanks.
norton
I would look into Vienna Acoustic speakers. They make excellent speakers, and you may be able to pick up a paor of Strauss' for around $5k. Their is a pair of Mahlers (their best) here for $5.5k).

KF
Legacy focus 20/20 's or the VMPS RM 40's. i won both - you will be happy either way.
Some to many will disagree with my approach below.

But with what you are saying, I think perhaps the best speaker upgrade you can do for yourself is to consider purchasing a new amp first. Using your words, a super nice amp.

Face it, if you know such super nice amps exist and if you think you can at all afford one, you know you'll probably buy one someday soon anyway so why not focus on that now?

I mention that because I am in the camp of those few who the amplifier is the key to any system. Whether good or bad. I also believe in the addage:

"An excellent amplifier can make mediocre speakers sound almost excellent. But an excellent pair of speakers with a mediocre amplifier will never sound better than mediocre."

If that is true, and I believe it is, I would therefore recommned looking at the amp first, see what sonic improvements it provides your current system. Then focus on new/used speakers to match that new amp.

I believe with this approach, you may also save yourself from a few unnecessary upgrades along the way. And that hopefully translates to better sonics, a faster path to getting where you envision being with your system, and hopefully spending less money getting there.

-IMO
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?ymisc&1041471439&openusid&zzTok20000&4&5#Tok20000

You gotta find speakers you like first before you get an amp you like. See my above post for the reasons.

Not all amps can drive all speakers. Even some of the amps I would claim are 'world class' are not designed to drive all speakers.

Find speakers you really like then match an amp with them.

KF
Yes, I partially agree with Tok20000. And that is one reason why you should focus on the amp first.

Unless of course he is disagreeing with the addage:

"An excellent amplifier can make mediocre speakers sound almost excellent. But an excellent pair of speakers with a mediocre amplifier will never sound better than mediocre."

If Tok20000 disagrees with this addage, then I must disagree with his assessment.

-IMO