Ported Speakers and Tube Amps??


Are ported speakers and either tube integrated amps or hybrid integrated's a no-no?

I have read some comments in regard to bass issues when the two are put together so I was looking to confirm this. I am assuming though that an amp with decent output would negate this issue?

Thnx in advance,
mattybumpkin
Good answer Karls.

As a general rule, the bigger the woofer that one uses, the sloppier the bass will be when ported. For reasonably "tight" bass, smaller woofers work better if you really must port the cabinet.

Since bigger woofers typically use bigger motor structures, they generate more reflected EMF. This makes it harder for the amp to load into and control the driver. Combining a lack of control over the driver with a lack of damping or "air spring" in the cabinet due to having a "blow hole" in it typically results in noticeable "sloppiness". Add a driver with a high Qms ( big impedance peak at resonance ) and you've got a real problem with "bloat". This is true for SS or tube based amps but tubes may have a harder time due to the lack of current needed to "muscle" the cone around. As such, it is best to avoid ported speakers and go for the quality of bass rather than the quantity of bass. Sean
>

PS... Pmkalby's point about using a higher efficiency design is quite valid, as a speaker that is more efficient won't have to make as long of an excursion. The less excursion, the less reflected EMF and the easier the amp can load into & control the driver. As such, it's kind of a "catch 22" situation and you have to choose what you like best and what sacrifices you are willing to live with. You should still avoid ported speakers though : )
I'm using ported Coincident speakers (92db) with an SET amp. Works great! flat 8 ohms, easy to drive, really tight bass.
Sean, When you talk about bass what range are you referring to hz wise? When you talk about large drivers what sizes are you talking about? I have ported speakers with a 9" dynaudio driver, driven by 160wt mono tube amps and the bass sounds about as tight (not loud) as my Quad 63's. What I have noticed though is they don't seam to like amps w/no negative feed back. Does that make any sense to you?
Sean is absolutely correct on port loaded speakers! I ended up "stuffing" the ports with foam (beside other things i had to do to the volume of the enclosure) to make them aperiodic. Results are satisfactory, but i believe ported speakers, even though top design choice amongst speaker-bulders, should be avoided.