Comparison between Sunfire and REL subs ????

I am currently using a stereo pair of The Sunfire Signature sub with my MG 3.5/R with excellent results. Properly configured and positioned Sunfire Signatures are very musical, extended with excellent definition and articulation.

I found the Sunfire mcuh easier to blend than the RELs (Strata, Storms, Stadiums) in my listening room (suspended wood floor). The down firing RELs were always too "boomy" and were difficult to integrate because of the absence of a continuously variable phase control (either 0/180 degrees). Whereas, the Sunfire's Phase control can be varied continuously (from 0 to 180)

I feel very strongly, that the negative propaganda re the Sunfire subs, are mostly due to poor placement (need to be away from room boundaries) and incorrect setup (volume too high, phase not properly adjusted).

In my experience, the Sunfire Signature is better in every respect (except for appearance) than the Architectural series. The Architectural series is not as extended and does not have the same sense of ease and control.

Sunfire gives you boom, rel gives you bass !

Samski, you're dead wrong. Not even close with that remark. You're going to steer him wrong with that ridiculous statement. You couldn't be furthur from the truth. The Architectural Sunfire will go tete a tete with that British downfiring sub of yours, and do more than hold it's own. In a blindfolded test: it would kick it's ass...

I had both the Rel Storm III and the Sunfire Signature. The Rel wouldn't go low enough to really augment the bass of my Merlin VSMs, and it didn't blend very well with them. I never could get it to mate very well with the Merlins, and sold it. I bought the Sunfire for my Home Theatre, thinking the same as Samski. I was shocked to find that the Sunfire was better. It was far more dynamic and went way deeper. It was also much easier to place because of it's size. The Sunfire was absolutely seamless when crossed over under 50 hz.

Warrenh, I have OWNED both subs, I stand by my statement,the sunfire has quality control issues, power supply hums and is the boomiest sub that I have owned, no matter where it was placed, nothing helped, I am speaking from experience , this forum is for opinions, that is all I am doing.