Von Schweikert VR-4,Jr.

These aren't entry level -- he has the vr1 and vr2 which also sound incredible at their price

then of course he has the vr11 I think $100k plus some change

ok compared to that the Utopia is a entry level speaker lol

How do they compare to the Totem Forrests, Innersound Isis, or Magnepan 3.6. All are speakers in the genreal price range ($3,000 to $4,500). I am considering all five of these. Thanks.

Elb - I have compared Magnepan to VSA, though not exactly using the VR4Jr. I owned MG3.6 for about 3 years. I really enjoyed them, but ultimately missed some of the "body" and "impact" of box speakers. Yet most box speakers sounded, well, "boxy". VSA speakers were one of the few that sounded almost as open as planars. I first tried the VR4-GenIIISE (in-home), but their bass overwhelmed my room. Ended up with the VR5, which I've been very happy with for the last year. I haven't heard VR4Jr, but I suspect it has a similar "house sound". In the end, comparing VSA to Innersound or Magnepan could be tough unless you can do auditions in different rooms with different electronics. By the way, a trusted audiophile friend of mine greatly prefers Innersound over Magnepan, so they should definitely be on your list (I've never heard Innersound myself). Also, I've never heard Totem products. Good Luck.

The VR-4jr's are better then the Totem Forest in mine and my wifes opinion. Of course very different from Innersounds (These are very different animals) The VR-4jr's are fairly effecient with what I thought was a pretty large soundstage. I auditioned a pair at Ears Nova in New York with Joshua Cohen. Of course his electronics are very good...better then mine that is....but after hearing and comparing everthing we could find (at the NYC show and outside) in the 3500.00-4,000.00 price range I am convinced that the VR-4jr's equal speakers in the 7000.00 to 8000.00 range. In a close 2nd we liked the Gibbon Eights, a speaker made locally here in NY. Good Luck

To ELB:
I once owned the Innersound Eros, big brother to Isis, keep in mind the sweat spot for the Innersound electrostats are about a foot wide. I kid you not. I also once owned Von Schweikert VR4 Gen III and thought they were great -- I'm sure the VR4 Jr's are excellent as well, although I wouldn't consider VS now that I've learned they are made in China.