What speaker after Thiel 7.2?

David99

I have a pair of 3.6's in amberwood I may be willing to sell when the time comes. Right now I really enjoy my 3.6's they image so well and the soundstage is wide and deep. I do not understand why anyone would think these speakers are not outstanding especially given their price. I would like a pair of 7.2's but it just isn't the time yet.

Chuck

Lrsky as for "beyond your limit" I meant that you were irritated about this subject. I think your personal attack proves that my presumption was correct. Mr. read everything as negative and take it personal.

When you get your ASL's together we'll have to compare them to my $2400 active speakers, see who knows what. That's probably the only way to see who's credentials stack up to mean the most.

As for the 3.7....with a little intuition clearly the CS6 is the coaxial version of the 3.6, it just costs about $3000 more than should to be a CS3.7. So its been difficult to make a speaker that fits the price point of an upgraded coaxial 3.6 when your choices are to make a slightly smaller 6 or a slightly bigger 2.3. This has a great deal to do with the delay of a 3.7. I wonder which of these variation it will be. And the fact the the 3.6 is still competitive with most of the Thiel line after 11 years has kept it running as has been said.

Lrsky any input on that?

I wonder if the other posters would be interested in knowing that you were the one who told me that the CS2.3 relies on the side walls to fill in the hole on axis in the midrange?

The other Cinematic_Systems/ Lrsky anecdote was the miswired CS7.2s that you "listened to extensively" before they left the factory. Were you just lying to me then?

And we got along so well and nice conversations on the phone back then.

So In the end we have a ex-thiel employee and 2 Thiel owners vs. an ex-thiel dealer.

Have to think this is a pretty thorough outline of the CS7.2, lastly I was wondering if someone could explain to me how my criticisms were any harsher than Lrsky's.

"I never liked the 3.6 as it embodies the flaws of most typical speakers of first order cross overs. Plus the midrange literally flies into pieces when over driven, ask Dreamworks in Nashville, if that isn't true."

Am I missing something? I'd like to know so I don't make this mistake again. I hate being the loudest clown.

Apparently not.

Cimematic systems / lrsky

In the end this is just a hobby and what other peoples opinions are concerning how my speakers perform really doesn't matter. It only matters what my opinion is concerning my purchase. If we start buying based on other peoples opinions them we will never be satisfied with our decision. If when listening to music you are concerned with what other peoples opinions are of what you are hearing then you are not listening to the music for the right reason. When we read the comments of what a reviewer writes we must keep it in context and still judge for ourselves. So in the end we all need to act in a civilized manner this is not life and death struggle simply a hobby for us to enjoy. There are far to many personnel attacks in these threads in general in my opinion. We are in the end all connected through a similar interest that being this hobby. We should learn to treat each other with mutual respect and dignity.

You have your opinions concerning the 7.2's and the 3.6's for that matter and lrsky has his. Neither one of you is right or wrong. When someone solicits your opinion you then have the right to give your opinion. How much credence one places on that opinion is up to that individual. I have determine through experience that when one gives a strong opinion one way or the other there is usually an agenda associated with that opinion sometimes hidden sometimes not.

I personnally have enjoyed an continue to enjoy my 3.6's. I would assume the 7.2's would have a similar sonic signiture and that I would enjoy them as well. Although I will admit I have not listened to them extensively. Whether or not they represent good value is up to the consummer not someones opinion. The market place will ultimately determine the answer to that question.

I personally was trying to give a helpful response, when it seemed to me that I was blind sided, with what appeared to be a nasty comment questioning my honesty. One doesn't have to be sensitive to think that someone is being smug, suggesting that I am lying about something that may have been misunderstood, or mispoken seven years ago.
My perspective came from watching the speaker, every day, inside the factory, seeing measurements, hearing them develop into something, (whether some on the thread here like it or not, being irrelevant). It was, at least an insider's viewpoint, having had discussions with the actual designer, his goals, and his tribulations in trying to make a great speaker etc.
So mine was not just a random view, based entirely on speculation. I went south when I said they are 'fairly good', which was vague.
I know that I have heard them sound pretty damn good, when driven with Grypon electronics. At Nicholson's HiFi in Nashville, TN, even people who had never particularly like the THIEL's were pretty amazed at the sound achieved with a simple, albiet expensive integrated from Denmark.
The principal complaint I have is their dynamic compression in the middle range. But every speaker out there has an Achilles heel.
MANY people LOVE the 3.6, and as I mentioned, Kevin Hayes, President of VAC, and a friend, finds them terrific, and likes them for what he considers to be their accuracy.
The guy I referenced at Dreamworks likes them, but was frustrated at their propensity to blow in the midrange.
If you like 'em that's great, and I can't disagree, "spinich, sour kraut". Love it or not. All THIEL's sound similar to a degree that for me they are easily identifiable. I also do not like the Tweeter, overlay, which, again, to me, IMHO, gives them a 'bright' sound. The CS 5i which I owned had more 'midrange offset', and, as I refer to it, 'image density'-- and to me they sounded fuller in the mids, so I liked them better.
On the most positive side, THIEL comprises an honest, hard working group of people which will never please every musical taste, but I can tell you this--they cut 'seconds', that is what most people would call 'B' stock, in half and put them in the dumpster, so they will never appear on the market, 'out the back door' so to speak.
That takes strength of conviction, and dedication.
I was very proud to travel all over the United States, to represent them, as they were, and are honorable people. Again, is everyone going to like their stuff, no,that would be impossible. But they do the industry proud with their work ethic, and commitment to improving each new product they present.
One of the toughest things about this business is the ease, with which someone can rain on your product parade. They can slice and dice virtually anything apart, and since this is opinion based to such a large degree, who can say that they are wrong?
I am happy that you like your 3.6's. Know this they were hand crafted by a real dedicated group of hard workers. That counts for something.