Tubes vs Solid State - Imaging, Soundstaging, 3D


I have limited experience with tubes having had a couple tube amps with Gold Lion KT88s and EL34s. The majority of amps I have owned have been solid state. In my experience, SS always seems to image more sharply and offer the deepest, clearest field.

Is this common?
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"But if you are only interested in how good the equipment looks on paper you might think global NFB is a good thing. "

Its an old beaten topic, but actually I think most people, especially audiophiles, are more interested in how something sounds, not how it specs out on paper.

I suppose if its true we have all been brainwashed, or earwashed I suppose as it were (I could probably use on of those) we don't really know that most of our stuff does not sound as good as it might if we would just go with the gear that caters to our ears the best.
But having said that most afiles care more about the sound than the specs, if I hear something that sounds good but does not measure well ( to some reasonable reference standard that it probably should) a little question mark will likely go off in my head asking "why".
In general, technical standards are a good thing. Not sure why audio should be any different? That's one of the things that leaves high end audio open for criticism, lack of standards. In lieu of standards, its harder in general to decide what things will play well together. You have to rely more on specific more proprietary solutions designed to work well together. Proprietary usually means fewer choices. That can be a good or bad thing. How Apple does things is an example many can relate to. People who love their products rely on Apple exclusively to a huge degree. Its a closed product space where Apple alone makes the decisions and provides the options. Many like that! Many do not. I am NOT an Apple fan in general.
if I hear something that sounds good but does not measure well ( to some reasonable reference standard that it probably should) a little question mark will likely go off in my head asking "why".

Now you know why, the technical specs don't jive with human hearing/perceptual rules, which also answers the question below:

In general, technical standards are a good thing. Not sure why audio should be any different?

I am sure its possible to develop test/measurement techniques that *do* correlate with human hearing rules, but right now the industry has had no will to do so and has not for the last 45 years so don't hold your breath.
"I am sure its possible to develop test/measurement techniques that *do* correlate with human hearing rules, but right now the industry has had no will to do so and has not for the last 45 years so don't hold your breath."

I'm not.

I suppose the standards that are applied do correlate to some extent with human hearing rules. It would be hard to see how products could be sold if not.

But I suppose it can also be proposed there are better standards possible. Few standards are perfect, so I could see where this could be the case.

More a matter of degree, or Shades of Gray, like most things, as I see not, not black and white, right and wrong.