To Cat sl1 owners: which tube amp?


I've a Cat sl1 signature mkii and totem forest speakers. I tried a lot of tube monos but i'm really in trouble to find a right match. The last i bought are two vtl mb 125: the sound is too bright for me...too detailed. I lissen to jazz and classical. I ask suggestion for a good tube monos or stereo to drive my totems (tube only please!). Budget 3000-5000 € (i'm in Italy...), stuff i'm considering: arc (vt 220, classic 120), manley (snapper, 100/240), jadis (i auditioned ja 50 and liked them...only few bass..), mcintosh (275, 2102?)...
Thank you for your answer
Enrico
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The issue of excessive gain is not valid. ARC preamps of 18 and even 30 db, e.g., LS5, is not an issue with many many amps. I have been using preamps of this gain range for 30+ years and I have been happy to have it….for phono and CD. Volume level and brightness are two very very different issues.

To claim that the CAT preamp is the cause of excessive brightness is also silly. This is a VERY dynamic and tonally neutral product that shows quickly the flaws elsewhere. And yes, it is very detailed. I had one on loan awhile back and it was incredible with my JL-3 amps. I just preferred the Aesthetix Io/Callisto preamp at the time because of the more warm and 3D of those magical pieces.

The Totem speaker line is also very detailed and dynamic…..incredible speakers. And they too will show system flaws quickly.

An evaluation of the cables (ICs specifically) should be done as this could be the cause of the brightness. What are you using here?

And what is your source? You need to evaluate the entire system and not blame the CAT or all the amps you are trying. It sounds like an overly warm amp like an older CJ or VTL or something like the ARC D70/D115 could be used to compensate for the brightness. But rather than finding an amp to compensate, you need to find the cause of the brightness and I assure you, it is not the CAT. And get rid of the Sovteks in the CAT if that is what you have there! Telefunken 6922's will add smoothness big time.
Jafox, I do agree with you that the CAT and its gain structure is absolutely NOT the cause of excess brightness. However, I think you may be surprised IF you listened to an ARC D70Mk2 or a D115 today( with some of today's gear)....they are NOT overly warm amps. In fact, I think they are about as true to the source as any amp that WJ ever designed.
When I hear of excessive brightness, besides the speakers, I always look to the room and the cabling.