That "tube sound" and power ratings


This might be a newbie question since I've only begun researching tube technology. I understand to some degree the theory that tube sound is partly related to second harmonic distortion vs. the more prevalent odd order harmonic characteristics of SS. If "tubies" prefer that sound (I might be one of them), does it make sense to carefully match an amplifier's power rating such that it is NOT TOO HIGH for the speakers it's driving? If the rating is too high won't that mean lower distortion and hence less tube sound for a given volume for those speakers than a lower power tube amp (in general that is - I realize not all Watts are the same). So won't a high wattage tube amp have less of the special tube sound "tubies" like at their preferred listening volume?

I realize I'm likely missing something here. Set me straight!
hazyj
Cool to hear that you're checking out different gear - have fun listening. Some lower powered amps can bring some magic- but one limiting factor could be with music that is more dynamic. Sometimes too much compression can set in and instead of enhancing the sound, the amp will act more as a limiter...
"Probably... A lot of what people like is the compression and fatness that occurs when an underpowered tube amp is over driven"

That's a very good point and a great example of how the best technical performance in terms of accuracy does not always win.
As I understand the question, you are seeking to determine if in general it makes sense to prefer a lower powered tube amp to a higher powered tube amp (assuming that both amps can provide sufficient watts for the application), due to an expectation that the lower powered amp may, under typical conditions, tend to distort more than the higher powered amp. And thereby provide sonic characteristics that are more "tubey" and less solid state-like than would otherwise be the case.

That is a logical question, but I think it focuses MUCH too narrowly on one single factor in tube amp sonics for any answers to be useful. There are simply way too many variables involved in the design and the performance characteristics of an amplifier, and in its interaction with the technical characteristics of whatever speaker is being used, for a useful answer to be defined. Certainly among different makes of amplifiers. And even when considering amps from a given manufacturer having different power ratings, that are otherwise generally similar in design, I see no reason to expect much consistency among the product lines of different manufacturers as to whether the higher powered or lower powered amp would be preferable. Or even much consistency across a variety of speakers when a comparison is performed between a given higher powered and lower powered amp, as a given tube amp can sound quite different depending on the magnitudes and phase angles of the impedances of the speakers it may be used with, and especially on how those parameters vary as a function of frequency.

Also, the question focuses on just one kind of distortion, harmonic distortion. There are other kinds, e.g., intermodulation distortion, transient intermodulation distortion, crossover distortion, etc. Some of these are neither generally specified nor even measurable in a standardized manner. And all involve a complex signal-dependent mix of different effects and different degrees of effects at different frequencies.

What I would suggest as the most useful line of inquiry, when you reach that point, is that you start a thread indicating the particular speakers that would be used, your budget range for amplification, the room size and listening distance, some idea of the volume levels you prefer, and (especially) whether or not your listening includes recordings having particularly wide dynamic range (i.e., particularly large DIFFERENCES between the volumes of the loudest and the softest notes, such as is often the case with well engineered, minimally compressed, classical symphonic music). The latter factor will dramatically affect how much power you need. Providing that information will get you many knowledgeable and useful suggestions from the members here, from which you can develop a “short list” of candidates.

Good luck. Regards,
-- Al
Zkzpb8 & Mapman - thanks!

Almarg - very helpful, thanks! Yes, my post is focused narrowly on this one question, but I'm not. When I listen I listen for what pleases my ear. If this is one of the things that does or does not then I'll note that fact and keep listening. I'm not really looking for specific amplifier suggestions, at least it didn't occur to me to do that. If I do it will be in another post, but I doubt that'll be necessary.