Using Dipole Speakers in a Stereo System


I'm in the process of trying to determine if I should purchase a pair of Genesis APM-1 speakers that have become available in my area. However, in my many years of listening and experimenting with audio equipment I have never used dipole speakers and need some advice.

My current system consists of an older Shanling solid state CD player, California Audio Labs DAC, Rogue Audio 100W Sphinx integrated hybrid stereo amp and Martin Logan Odyssey speakers. My main concern is that, because I listen primarily to solo guitar and light jazz, the expanded soundstage that I've read that dipoles are known for, might not be a good match.

Any advice will be appreciated.
128x128broadstone
Yes, electrostats are also dipoles but I'm having difficulty with definitions that I've recently read in regard to dipoles in general. Descriptions are not all exactly the same but the things that seem consistent across the board are that the designs require speakers to be in separate enclosures facing both front and back in an out of phase configuration or that the speakers are mounted on what amounts to little more than boards. The term "enclosure" is also confusing in regard to the open dipole configuration.

My question regarding dipoles being used for solo instruments goes to another thread that I initiated and Elizabeth kindly responded to. I was soliciting advice regarding monaural presentation of solo guitar music that may be a more pinpointed as if the artist was sitting across the room. From what I read about dipoles, which would include my Odysseys, is that they create a wide stage which seems the opposite of what I'm trying to achieve.

I recently have my Odysseys configured with a permanent A/B selector device with a pair of Jamo Concert Eight bookshelf speakers. These Jamo's present a realistic/accurate reproduction of guitar and light jazz but are lacking something when listening to classical symphonic music or movies (in stereo) so I need to find a single speaker pair that satisfies both of these two extremes.

The bottom line is that I remain confused. I'm pretty sure, though, that, even though the Genesis is a really beautiful speaker, I should start looking for a decent conventional speaker instead of continuing with the dipoles. As a matter of fact, from what I'm reading, dipoles seem to be the speaker of choice for surround sound, something that I no longer listen to.
Solo guitar and light jazz,get yourself a pair of Harbeth P3 ESR'S. No speaker I have owned reproduces a guitar like them. And placement on these are a breeze!
Broadstone:
The character of the recording is determined by the Artist/Label/Engineer priorities.
An example is the Glenn Gould "Re-Performance" of the Goldberg Variations
(DSD recorded by Zenph Studios on Sony Classical label).
I was hoping for a Grand Hall acoustic but got a dry intimate presentation instead.
In other words, if the soundstage is in the recording, your speakers won't remove it.
Dweller, I'm not that well versed on audiophile terminology so I can only attempt to describe my issues using terms that I hope will make my point. I'm not trying to "remove" soundstage; I'm simply trying not to add apparent room filling sound where it should not be. I only occasionally listen to orchestral music and appreciate the fullness that I get from the Odysseys but when I'm listening to one person playing one guitar, I want it to sound that way. It was for this reason that I originally had questions regarding a way to employ monaural listening using a stereo system.

Elizabeth kindly responded to that post with advice regarding my speaker setup. Thanks, that was one of my original concerns and I believe that my speaker setup is correct. BTW, Elizabeth, based on hearing issues that I had described, I was fitted with hearing aids. The jury is still out on that one. Although my hearing is improved for general social communication, I'm not yet convinced that listening to music is enhanced except that I'm able to discern detail at lower volumes.
Broadstone, FWIW re stereo v mono, one of the differences that you hear when you are listening in mono is that in mono you are not getting reproduction of the out of phase information in the recording which will appear in stereo playback, and is one of the things that enlarges the sense of space. Add to that enlargement, the back wave from dipoles and you can get an overly expanded stage (which some folks like, some not so much). When you go to conventional box speaker, properly set up, you can get a very accurate reproduction of the performance and venue. If accuracy is what you want! And therein lays most of the difference in preferences for speaker design.

FWIW, careful set up of well designed conventional speakers in a good room can improves on anything that dipoles can do. IMHO, dipoles survive mostly because they do enhance the soundstage effects many folks are unable to achieve using conventional speakers. It is just easier to get, so long as you are not too critical. If you are a critical listener, you may find that proper set up of dipoles can be a real bear.