New to Audiogon. selling my whole system


EVERYTHING. I've never done this before. It's time to start fresh. I'll soon be posting everything as I learn to use this site. I have everything from Proac Supertowers to studio 100's to studio 1 mk2 to Quick silver monos and full function pre with all MIT wire to Stax Lamda's to two Onyx integrateds etc...

Not sure how much I'll fetch for everything, but I've been listening to everything from 15k speakers to the newest integrateds. I have found a few dealers who have been ultra helpful and very nice. Many years ago I met Richard Vandersteen at Stereo Unlimited in SD and fell in love with the 'new' 2's. After a 4 year stint driving the USS Kitty Hawk, I moved back to CT and set out to finally get my new system. I sold off my moscode amp, CJ pre and Polk 10's (Sandy Gross' design) and found a Vandy dealer in RI> I became close friends with the owner and we are still in touch even though he's been closed for years. I walked in with my wife prepared to walk out with Vandy's and a new amp. Instead I walked out with the Supertowers, Quick mono's and his personal pre amp.

I have loved this system for many years and have had new drivers put in and it sounded even better. Problem is, my new wife needs a remote so I had to buy an NAD integrated. I still love the speakers, but I was told to check out the new D series of Proacs. I was led to Audio Connection and John (he posts here). I went in to audition the Pro Ac's and they were nice, but I wasn't blown away as what I have is still pretty darn good. Then John told me to listen to the Vandy's along with the Ayer 7x integrated and a cheap Music Hall DAC.

Keep in mind, I had recently heard the Focal BE line, Paradigm Signatures, B&W (never have liked them), Dynaudio, PSB T I think it was, Wilson, Dali and the list goes on. Nearly all the contenders (I"ve left some out). I have head the NAD Master series and the new NAD 390 digital. I heard the Krell, etc....

I never expected to have one system blow me away, but it did. I was in SHOCK and still am as it's the reverse of the last time. I really wanted to hear the Hegel integrateds as they have a nice DAC built in, but they aren't out yet. That said, the Ayre would be hard to beat. I like John's approach in that he puts systems together and we have similar ears. He carries the lines I have and have had other than the MIT I have been using (770 MH CVT and shotgun etc..) I also didn't think the Audioquest would impress me, but again, I was dead wrong.

I read reviews, but nothing beats listening. NOTHING. I think the Vandy Treo's , ayre 7x integrated, Music Hall DAC and Audioquest with those DBS deals are the way I'm going to go as soon as I'm able to share some great stuff with folks.

I look forward to reading more threads in the forum as it seems like a nice community.

I wonder how many have been in my boat (starting fresh for the first time after all these years)? Any stories to share?
ctsooner
Hi Ctsooner

I too recently switched speakers after having them for many years. They are good speakers but were extremely picky about what they matched with. This experience has let me to certain realizations I didn't have during ownership. For all they did right and for all the efforts I expended in making it right from cables to amps to pre-amps, source components I could never capture the "it" factor which sustains engagement long term and found myself gravitating more towards favorite recordings, sound over music, a bad omen. Furthermore, when I purchased the speakers used, on this site, I never had the opportunity to listen to them first hand. Again, good speakers but how long do you try before conceding they just aren't your cup of tea?

So are you saying that you like the Proacs but you like the Vandies better? Or have you considered that the Proacs might be improved by changing out some or all of your upstream components which you are going to do regardless? This can get tricky unless you are willing to start over because you don't like or are uncomfortable with the speakers which you indicated you love. You are fortunate in that you have a great dealer that can help you sort all this out as he also sells Proac but might you still love the Proacs if you could find gear better suited to them? Would he be willing to let you listen with other gear in your space? I'm not suggesting this is the answer but is just another consideration in the equation. Maybe the Vandys are just better to you and your mind is made up, they are certainly wonderful speakers, I owned the 2cs for many years, one of only two speakers I have owned that I loved, the other my current speaker that stepped into my system, synergistic magic! How lucky fortunate is that? But I knew before hand that the amp was staying and the new speakers would have to be electrically compatible, were they ever. Just more food for thought. Sometimes what appears to be a "nobrainer" is often a mirage. But if you have a wad of cash to throw and don't mind spending the dough, do it, but FIRST you should hear in your space to be sure. Your situation is the opposite of mine, I had the system but the speakers were the issue. It seems you have a speaker you love but the system may not be ideally matched to it.

Bo1972,

Yes -- the NAD M51 is indeed an excellent DAC. I am not familiar with their other products so I cannot comment on them.
Proac speakers and Quicksilver amps are IMO a very synergistic combination.

You might try some other gear with them to see if it will work better for you.

I am using the Proac Response 2.5 with Quicksilver V-4 amps and I am very happy with the combination.
Yes, Bruce Kutin from Ocean State Audio. He's still a friend of mine. Great guy and honest. I just got the Ayre 7xe from a friend. I will be buying the Vandy Treo and Audioquest cables from John Rutan at Audio Connection. Just a wonderful guy who loves his audio. He wants me to get the Music Hall DAC to keep the costs down as I also have to get a firewire and USB cable to do the rips from my macbook pro to my 1T portable HD. I need to figure out what format to rip etc... I like the whole system that I heard in his store. I wonder though if I should be looking at a better balanced DAC. I have heard the new NAD M51 and it has HDMI even (for my TV) and is 32 bit architecture. I"m still learning about digital but I want balanced as the Ayre just sounds SO much better having balanced inputs.
For AQcables, what are the best values in the lines? I will need speaker, balanced from DAC to amp and I think that's is since I will just rip all my CD;s to the portable HD via the firewire and then go USB to the DAC I end up with. I'll use my MIT interconnects etc... from the tv or cable box to the DAC I guess.

I was told to get at a min the DBS cables they make, but in all lines there are best value cables. ONLY if you've heard them, I'd like your feedback. I"ll listen to John of course, but curious to see if there is a diminishing return point for each type. Thanks to all for feedback. John will be selling everything I have as it's easier for him to make sure it's in it's best order and it's worth the money he'll charge me. I will sell the ProAc Super towers myself as they are too big for me to get down there and I'm still using them as they sound awesome as they have brand new drivers in them. They were upgraded teak if anyone has interest, lol. Thanks again to all.